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EVE On Steam

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Weekend deal running that let's you get three months for $5, with a starter pack to boot. Just a quick heads up for anyone who's been curious to give it a try. ;)

Any newbie tips anyone can give me? lol
 
What the hell is it? Sounds like a vaporized feminine product.
 
What the hell is it? Sounds like a vaporized feminine product.

:lol: It's basically the Holy Grail of multiplayer space games. I don't usually go for MMOs, but I figured I might as well give it a shot for 5 bucks. lol



I agree that the name's kind of weird, but honestly I think that's because it's an attempt to get as close as possible to another game's name without having to risk copy right infringement.

Escape_Velocity_(video_game)

"E.V." was what most of the fans used to call the game, and the concept is pretty remarkably similar.
 
Eve sounds like hella fun, but I just don't have enough time to devote to it.
 
Eve sounds like hella fun, but I just don't have enough time to devote to it.

That, and a somewhat crappy internet connection, are why I generally avoid MMOs as well.

Five dollars for three months, though? I figured, "why not?" :shrug:

I spend more than that on lunch at work every other day, and I've got more than enough time to decide whether I like the game or not. Lol
 
Weekend deal running that let's you get three months for $5, with a starter pack to boot. Just a quick heads up for anyone who's been curious to give it a try. ;)

Any newbie tips anyone can give me? lol

The career tutorials, do them. The Industrial and Financial ones have missions that will take several hours to complete, so run another track while it is finishing, you can have more than one mission at a time going. Best way to learn the game and start making money post tutorial is to run missions, probably for your factions navy. So if you are Caldari(probably best starter race, especially for mission runners), run missions for the Caldari Navy. Loot everything during the missions, sell any high price loot(you can right click and select "view market info" or something similar and find out what an item is selling for), save the rest to reprocesses down to minerals then sell the minerals. Train the Refining skill(it is under Industry) to level 3 before reprocessing it down.

Skills: Each level of a skill takes significantly more time than the last level. First level might take 7 minutes, second 30 minutes, third a few hours, 4th a day and 5th 4 days. Each level provides the same benefit. For example, each level of the Gunnery skill provides a 2 % bonus to turret rate of fire. It is therefore most efficient to increase your power early to train lots of skills to level 1 or 2. However! many skills have a prerequisite of other skills before you can learn it, and all ships have prerequisite skills before you can fly them, and most modules also have a prerequisite. Planning is key. Find a ship you want to fly, figure out what modules you want in the ship, and learn those skills. This can help: http://evemon.battleclinic.com/. Remember you can queue skills for up to 24 hours(longer actually since the 24 hours is when the last skill starts training in the queue, it can train past that 24 hours) and that skills train in realtime, whether you are logged in to play or not. Therefore, have a full queue set up before logging.

In rough order of priority(very very very very very rough), you want to increase your capacitor skills(Engineering skills) since that powers your combat abilities. No capacitor, no repairing shield or armor and potentially no firing weapons. These are under Engineering in your skill list. Then defensive skills. Depending on the race of ships you are flying this means either armor(Amar, Gallente and some Minmatar) or shield(Caldari, some Minmatar). Armor skills are under mechanic, shield skills under Engineering. Next priority is weapons. If you are flying Amarr, Gallente or Minmatar, you will probably be using turrets, which are under Gunnery, if you are using Caldari or Minmatar you will probably be using missiles(which are the best for running missions) which is under (surprise!) Missile Launcher Operation, and if you are Gallente, most of your damage done will probably be done by drones, which are under Drones.

Quick guide to the races:

Amarr: They use lasers for weapons and they armor tank. Lasers use capacitors to fire, but can change damage types to better get around resistances and also can effect range and damage dealt quickly. Armor tanking means that you will repair your armor during battle, which is efficiency wise a nice thing, but as armor repair modules have a long cycle time, can be a bit nerve wracking at first. Second fastest ships if I remember right, not the most friendly in terms of new players but not bad.

Caldari: My recommendation for new players. They use mostly missiles for offense, which is the best choice for missions, and take no capacitor to fire. Missiles do not miss, but can be shot down(though this is exceedingly rare). The ships shield tank, which is less efficient than armor tanking but better able to handle spike damage, and there are some neat tricks that can be done(passive shield tanking). Ships are slowest in game IIRC.

Gallente: Next best new player race. Ships armor tank, and use hybrid weapons and drones. Drones are incredibly powerful and once launched will just about fight for you without much interaction though are better with guidance.

Minmatar: least new player friendly. Use projectile weapons and missiles. Projectile weapons are nice in that they can hit at a very long range and by changing ammo can do damage across a range of resistance types. The problem is that you also use missiles, requiring training in an entirely different area, meaning it takes awhile to become effective at either. Some Minmatar ships armor tank, some shield tank, so again, you have to train in two different areas to be effective. On the plus side, Minmatar ships are the fastest in the game.

See next post for links that will help you.
 
Important links. Eve is a spreadsheaters dream, and has a higher learning curve than any other MMO. If you are adverse to looking things up, it is the wrong game for you.

EVE-Survival: Mission Reports <~if you run missions, this is the hands down most important link ever. It gives details on every single combat mission in game. Most of the time you will not need it, but especially as a new player, there is a HUGE difference in mission difficulty even among missions of the same level. This will help you know which ones to avoid until you have more skill points and experience. It also includes a complete guide to the Epic mission arc, which is a great thing to do about a week into the game.

EVE University <~most MMOs have guilds. Eve has corporations. Eve University is a player run corporation that exists to teach new players how to play. Its website is also an absolutely awesome resource for information. I cannot say enough good about these guys, they take an incredibly complex game and make it manageable for new players

UniWiki <~Eve U's wiki, containing there courses and a ton of info. Notice the section on outfitting ships for each race. After you pick a race and finish the tutorial, read it.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page <~Wiki from makers of Eve, good resource and points you to other resources

https://forums.eveonline.com/ <~official forums. A few people are dicks, but most people are incredibly helpful. Lots of links to resources stickied in each section. Great place to go for answers to questions.

All of these links should work in the ingame browser. If you have any questions do not hesitate to ask. I am going to start patching and pop in on a free trial account. If you want I can give you my game infoz and we can chat ingame once I get that all done.
 
So yeah, this patch is gunna take awhile...

Edit: only 1.4 gigs to go...
 
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Last time I tried to play (which was admittedly a while ago; a free trial account back in 2006), the game was set up with something similar to the "class" system you see in other RPGs and MMOs.

Is that still the case? If so, is there any real point to choosing a combat oriented class?

From what I've read, it honestly seems like you'll spent a lot more time on average mining and trading than fighting in EVE.

So yeah, this patch is gunna take awhile...

Edit: only 1.4 gigs to go...

Yea... I noticed that myself. The game is almost as big as Skyrim. My computer estimates a six and half hour download for the whole thing.
 
Last time I tried to play (which was admittedly a while ago; a free trial account back in 2006), the game was set up with something similar to the "class" system you see in other RPGs and MMOs.

Is that still the case? If so, is there any real point to choosing a combat oriented class?

From what I've read, it honestly seems like you'll spent a lot more time on average mining and trading than fighting in EVE.

No classes, and you do not ever have to mine. This is a good thing as I find mining to be the most mind numbingly boring activity ever. There are a ****load of possible careers, but what career you are interested in only determines what skills you might choose to train. However, you can train other skills, you can do more than one career, there are more options in Eve than any other game. When I played regularly, I two-boxed. One box was a combat mission runner and cargo hauler. The other was a researcher/manufacturer/miner/savager/inventor. I was trying to get my first character, the mission runner, into exploration when I finally kinda faded out of playing. You are not locked into anything, and the possible ways to play the game continue to increase.

Yea... I noticed that myself. The game is almost as big as Skyrim. My computer estimates a six and half hour download for the whole thing.

I just had to patch, done now. Not bad, but I have a fairly decent internet connection.
 
Note: it appears that some of the skills have been moved around to new categories, so some of the above info might be slightly inaccurate.
 
Note: it appears that some of the skills have been moved around to new categories, so some of the above info might be slightly inaccurate.

Is there some kind of trick to getting it to run on Steam? I've tried running it normally and as an administrator from the start menu, the desktop, and even the steam file itself. The little loading circle pops up for a second and then... nothing.

I've already run the repair tool and I'm verifying the integrity of the cache on Steam now.

Edit:

Ummm... Wow. Looks like 23 different files were corrupted and will have to be re-downloaded.

Way to go Steam installer! :roll:
 
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Is there some kind of trick to getting it to run on Steam? I've tried running it normally and as an administrator from the start menu, the desktop, and even the steam file itself. The little loading circle pops up for a second and then... nothing.

I've already run the repair tool and I'm verifying the integrity of the cache on Steam now.

Edit:

Ummm... Wow. Looks like 23 different files were corrupted and will have to be re-downloaded.

Way to go Steam installer! :roll:

Do you have to run it through steam?
 
I think so. I bought it through steam.

Did you get an account name and password for Eve? If so, then you should be able to get the client straight through them.
 
Did you get an account name and password for Eve? If so, then you should be able to get the client straight through them.

Ugh, reacquired the missing files and it's still acting up. I'll have to try again tomorrow, and see if I can't get it directly from Eve.
 
Okay. Consider me officially peeved.

I bought the three month subscription on Steam, and downloaded the game client through them. That was when the problems started.

First, the damn thing wouldn't even run. I had to spend an hour verifying the game cache and running the repair tool just to get it to start.

Secondly, when I finally did get it started, I found that there was no way to log in. I wasn't given any code to redeem the time I had just bought with CC, but it seems that I can use a function that will link my steam account with an eve account.

The problem with this, however; is that the account information that this option provides you apparently doesn't work as an actual login. The Username it gives you, "Steam user," isn't recognized by the game client as being legitimate (spaces between words aren't allowed), and it literally says NOTHING whatsoever about any kind of password. There isn't any option in Account Management to create a password or change my username either.

I figured that I might be able to ask about this on Eve's forums... but, that's apparently not allowed if you're using an account linked with steam. It tells you to log out and try again. :roll:

Basically the only option I was left with was to contact customer support; something I did more than 20 hours ago at this point, and have still yet to receive any word back on.

I mean... WTF? Are they serious with all of this crap? wtf.gif

Why on Earth would they even put an offer like this out there if they were going to go out of their way to discriminate against Steam users?

Shenanigans! Shenanigans, I say! lol
 
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Okay. Consider me officially peeved.

I bought the three month subscription on Steam, and downloaded the game client through them. That was when the problems started.

First, the damn thing wouldn't even run. I had to spend an hour verifying the game cache and running the repair tool just to get it to start.

Secondly, when I finally did get it started, I found that there was no way to log in. I wasn't given any code to redeem the time I had just bought with CC, but it seems that I can use a function that will link my steam account with an eve account.

The problem with this, however; is that the account information that this option provides you apparently doesn't work as an actual login. The Username it gives you, "Steam user," isn't recognized by the game client as being legitimate (spaces between words aren't allowed), and it literally says NOTHING whatsoever about any kind of password. There isn't any option in Account Management to create a password or change my username either.

I figured that I might be able to ask about this on Eve's forums... but, that's apparently not allowed if you're using an account linked with steam. It tells you to log out and try again. :roll:

Basically the only option I was left with was to contact customer support; something I did more than 20 hours ago at this point, and have still yet to receive any word back on.

I mean... WTF? Are they serious with all of this crap? View attachment 67155787

Why on Earth would they even put an offer like this out there if they were going to go out of their way to discriminate against Steam users?

Shenanigans! Shenanigans, I say! lol

This any help: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=243741 ?
 
As near as I can figure, it's supposed to automatically be creating an account for me and logging me in when I load the client through Steam

For some reason... It's simply not. :shrug:

I'll keep working with it, but I really wish friggin' tech support would get back to me already with some guidance. lol

As I read it, you get a key from steam, make an account at Eve website and use the key?
 
Slightly off topic, but Pinball Arcade goes live on Steam on Friday. It is a simulator that has about 25 real pinball machines recreated, all the same programming, etc. It has been on many platforms, including tablets (where it is great!), but finally coming to PC. Why is this cool? Now, you can buy a full sized pinball cabinet, with a 47 inch LCD for the playing field, a 19 inch LCD for the translight and a LED display for the scores. Cool stuff...(and since I can't afford to spend ten grand on a machine....)
 
As I read it, you get a key from steam, make an account at Eve website and use the key?

Finally managed to get the damn game working, incidentally. After trying everything but the kitchen sink to try and get things to run properly through Steam, I eventually decided to simply say "screw it" and had tech support swap all of the time I purchased on Steam to a new trial account I created instead.

Everything seems to be working now, and they even refunded me the time I wasted trying to get the game running. :)
 
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