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Some new releases will require a 64bit OS to run

Surprised it has not started ages ago. I mean you almost cant get a computer with 32 bit OS on it any more.
 
PeteEU said:
Surprised it has not started ages ago. I mean you almost cant get a computer with 32 bit OS on it any
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True, but theres lots of older 32bits out there still
 
PeteEU said:
Most are.. as long as there are no 16 bit! :)
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My wife got my last handmedown and its 64 bit and way faster than she needs for facebook and email...Im getting itchy...I may build another one...I dont need it yet so it would be just to do it...

i7 950
Asus sabertooth x58
24 gig Corsair vengeance 1600
Traditional 1 trig HD
Nvidia gt 570

I know theres bigger better faster out there...there always is a few months after you build...but the technology isnt moving anywhere as fast as it used to with PCS...they are getting to be dinasaurs
 
most computers stopped using 32 bit after they fixed the 64 bit bugs and actually made drivers for them.

the problem is though that 32 bit cannot handle more than 4 gigs of ram or a 2 terabyte hd without an additional driver to help windows andlinux/unix operating systems understand the extra of everything.

64 bit can handle multi core well past 2 of them,massive ram and hd space,and modern complex graphics cards.kinda sad 64 bit is now picking up,since linux has had it for 2 decades and mac since i believe osx came out.i run win7 64 bit with no problems whatsoever on my alienware,only game i have had crash on it was skyrim a few times,and no surprise like 90% of the computers cant even handle that game without crashing,mine almost never crashed plus had decent fps.


next change to games should be to allow support for more than 3 video cards per game,examples skyrim and oblivion are super picky on which vid card they have to run on,diablo 3 runs on a super small amount of cards,and the game wont even play if its not on a supported video card:soapunlike skyrim that will atleast play slow and with bugs.
 
Heck, even new atom processors can handle 64 bit these days.
 
lpast said:
True, but theres lots of older 32bits out there still
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my first puter was an ibm 8086..I played pong endlessly on it...it was a govt surpless puter...my next was a 286...then I got the speed fever and a 386...then 486...then then..then..then...lol
 
lpast said:
my first puter was an ibm 8086..I played pong endlessly on it...it was a govt surpless puter...my next was a 286...then I got the speed fever and a 386...then 486...then then..then..then...lol
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i had a 386 when i was a kid,awesome computer for its day and age,got it free from the school because they were gonna throw them out in 96,but for a computer from 87-88 it was the 1988 equivilent of a 8k gaming desktop.pretty sad when it had a 16 bit operating system,windows 2.0/3.0/3.1,2 megabytes of ram a 25 mhz processor and a 100 mb hard drive,enough to play wolfenstein 3d and doom,and duke nukem kinda!!!
 
My first computer was an atari brand, I don't remember what model (I was 6) but it had color and that was huge in the early 80s.

Then a 286, then 486, then pentium 25 mhz, then pentium 133 mhz, then pentiun 2 200 mhz, pentium 2 400 mhz, then a pentium 4 2ghz (this is when I finally started making decent money on my own and stopped getting hand me downs from my parents), then a pentium m 1.6 ghz laptop, then an athlon xp dual core xp 500, and now an AMD a8-3500 laptop
 
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My first computer was an atari brand, I don't remember what model (I was 6) but it had color and that was huge in the early 80s.

Then a 286, then 486, then pentium 25 mhz, then pentium 133 mhz, then pentiun 2 200 mhz, pentium 2 400 mhz, then a pentium 4 2ghz (this is when I finally started making decent money on my own and stopped getting hand me downs from my parents), then a pentium m 1.6 ghz laptop, then an athlon xp dual core xp 500, and now an AMD a8-3500 laptop
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I had a commodore 64 a friend sold me used for my kids...and they never touched it lol
 
Sure as hell I'm not going back to 32bit OS on my PC...RAM limitations unacceptable.

But this PC at work really shouldn't have been upgraded to Win 7...it only has 1 GB of ram.
Damn slow when you run more than 2-3 programs at once, especially when you’re switching back and forth.
 
lpast said:
My wife got my last handmedown and its 64 bit and way faster than she needs for facebook and email...Im getting itchy...I may build another one...I dont need it yet so it would be just to do it...

i7 950
Asus sabertooth x58
24 gig Corsair vengeance 1600
Traditional 1 trig HD
Nvidia gt 570

I know theres bigger better faster out there...there always is a few months after you build...but the technology isnt moving anywhere as fast as it used to with PCS...they are getting to be dinasaurs
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Hehe just dont let her buy her own pc.. or suffer the wrath of ridicule. There is a true story about a guy who told his GF to go buy her own pc (with his credit card) since he was tired of her using his PC for her facebook. She came home with a 2000 dollar Apple MacBook Pro...
 
lpast said:
my first puter was an ibm 8086..I played pong endlessly on it...it was a govt surpless puter...my next was a 286...then I got the speed fever and a 386...then 486...then then..then..then...lol
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My first computer was an Osborne. That got replaced when the IBM PC came out.. and later we added a 10 MB hard disk! Damn hard disk cost 5000 dollars in the early 1980s :)

I was cleaning out the attic yesterday and found an old 20 MB hard disk and a large floopy disc drive.. the 5 1/4 inch kind :) ahhh the memories.
 
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Given the hardware requirements to play (or at least effectively play) a lot of new games, I don't see this being a major issue for most people. If you're got a PC running a 32bit OS, it probably doesn't have the necessary hardware. If you've invested in updating the hardware, doing the same for the OS shouldn't be the end of the world.

IMO, a lot of the new games are grossly overhyped, overpriced and rushed to relase full of bugs so I tend not to bother with them anyway. Ironically, given the topic, my main issue has been getting my classic games to run on a 64bit OS. :(
 
I'm not concerned with this 64bit news. I've been running 64bit OS's for years...I had 64bit XP.
 
PeteEU said:
My first computer was an Osborne. That got replaced when the IBM PC came out.. and later we added a 10 MB hard disk! Damn hard disk cost 5000 dollars in the early 1980s :)

I was cleaning out the attic yesterday and found an old 20 MB hard disk and a large floopy disc drive.. the 5 1/4 inch kind :) ahhh the memories.
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Pete, I paid 550 bucks for a 40meg HD at a computer show and a USrobotics 4800 baud modem was 4grand...needless to say I didnt buy it....I used floppys then 750discs...and I knew a bit of dos at one time...it was the only way to get around before windows 3.0 then Norton created the greatest software EVER...Pctools which was a dos shell with built in utilities...you still had to command line alot of stuff like the original McCaffe antivirus...
 
lpast said:
Pete, I paid 550 bucks for a 40meg HD at a computer show and a USrobotics 4800 baud modem was 4grand...needless to say I didnt buy it....I used floppys then 750discs...and I knew a bit of dos at one time...it was the only way to get around before windows 3.0 then Norton created the greatest software EVER...Pctools which was a dos shell with built in utilities...you still had to command line alot of stuff like the original McCaffe antivirus...
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Yes PCtools!... was awesome!

But my hard-disc was bought in 1982 or 83.. lonnnnng before Windows 3.0 :)
 
lpast said:
Pete, I paid 550 bucks for a 40meg HD at a computer show and a USrobotics 4800 baud modem was 4grand...needless to say I didnt buy it....I used floppys then 750discs...and I knew a bit of dos at one time...it was the only way to get around before windows 3.0 then Norton created the greatest software EVER...Pctools which was a dos shell with built in utilities...you still had to command line alot of stuff like the original McCaffe antivirus...
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I spent $1000 for a 100mb HD way back when for my Texas Instruments TI-99/4A. I was looking at this page and it has a lot of what I had, including the original acoustic 300 baud modem.
 
Cephus said:
I spent $1000 for a 100mb HD way back when for my Texas Instruments TI-99/4A. I was looking at this page and it has a lot of what I had, including the original acoustic 300 baud modem.
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heheh..I remember being excited as all hell and I couldnt wait to get home to put in my brandy new 1200 baud speeddemon...coupled with my amazing 8k dialup
 
lpast said:
heheh..I remember being excited as all hell and I couldnt wait to get home to put in my brandy new 1200 baud speeddemon...coupled with my amazing 8k dialup
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First computer in my family arrived when I was about 10ish...about 15+ years ago...it was a old one running DOS...
Used both small and large floppy disks...I didn't get into the specifics of computers until years later, so I'm unsure about it's CPU power, HD size, etc.

Burned in a fire a few years later, so I can't check now...


Oddly, we/I never had any console gaming systems, until an XBOX way later.
 
PeteEU said:
My first computer was an Osborne. That got replaced when the IBM PC came out.. and later we added a 10 MB hard disk! Damn hard disk cost 5000 dollars in the early 1980s :)

I was cleaning out the attic yesterday and found an old 20 MB hard disk and a large floopy disc drive.. the 5 1/4 inch kind :) ahhh the memories.
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I still have games in the box that are 5 1/4 floppy. Occasionally I will pull out the original Wing Commander or maybe an old D&D game and play them on Dos Box (linux ap that allows you to simulate an early dos pc). Man, 4 color cga really sucks. Might just find my 5 1/4 drive and try Red Storm Rising again, used to love that game.

Considering the number of people who stay with XP, I am kind of suprised MS hasn't forced them to change already.
 
DVSentinel said:
I still have games in the box that are 5 1/4 floppy. Occasionally I will pull out the original Wing Commander or maybe an old D&D game and play them on Dos Box (linux ap that allows you to simulate an early dos pc). Man, 4 color cga really sucks. Might just find my 5 1/4 drive and try Red Storm Rising again, used to love that game.
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I still have a couple of boxes of 8" disks and one or two 8" drives around somewhere. No idea what's on any of them though.

Considering the number of people who stay with XP, I am kind of suprised MS hasn't forced them to change already.
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Microsoft can't force anyone to do anything. They can stop supporting XP, which will happen relatively soon, but XP was a better OS than Vista, most people aren't going to change to a worse OS just because the company wants them to. 7 is better, 8 is sounding like a dud, I don't think I'll be upgrading from 7 any time soon, no matter what M$ wants.
 
Cephus said:
Microsoft can't force anyone to do anything. They can stop supporting XP, which will happen relatively soon,
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It actually already happened in 2009. However the extended support (with newest service pack only) to 2014.

but XP was a better OS than Vista, most people aren't going to change to a worse OS just because the company wants them to.
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Technically it was not.. visually and user-ability Vista was too Linux/Apple like on security.

7 is better
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Best OS out there.

8 is sounding like a dud, I don't think I'll be upgrading from 7 any time soon, no matter what M$ wants.
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Disagree fully. Having played around with Windows 8, I find after a short time, I actually prefer it to Windows 7. Certain aspects enhance the Windows experience and others are revolutionary. Metro look is good on touch screens.. desktop.. well takes some getting use too, but it is in fact no difference than your desktop/start button put in one. I found that my productivity (getting to stuff) went up because of the Metro thing.

But saying that, there was still a lot of tweaking to be done so my final judgement will come with the RC coming out next month.
 
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