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OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warning:

Matt Foley

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If you played Diablo 2 and had high expectations, warning, don't buy Diablo 3.

If you played Diablo 2 and had low expectations, warning, it's worse than you thought.

If you never played Diablo, and have zero expectations, you might like it.




It's worse than I thought. I occasionally read the development forums here and there for the last 6 months:

-"Potion cooldowns", meh, well I guess I'll try it anyways.
-"Skill cooldowns", meh, well I guess I'll try it anyways.
-"Characters look a little cartoony", meh, well I guess I'll try it anyways.
-"An auction house using real money", meh, well I guess I'll try it anyways.
-"Drops aren't so great", meh, well I guess I'll try it anyways.
-"It's too linear", meh, well I guess I'll try it anyways.

Here's what I didn't read about:

-Battlenet consists of about 10 chat channels, and a join multiplayer game button. You hit the button and then pick the "quest" you are on, and soon you're in the game with 1 other random player on the same "quest". It's exactly like WOW, sitting in a town, and clicking on the dungeon que, except you don't end up in a group with 5 players, you end up in a group with 1 other player. Nobody else joins, and if you quit you lose all your "quest" progress up till the next waypoint. You can't join any game that's out of your "level range", you can't create a game that's out of your "level range".

I'm guessing Blizzard intentionally discouraged players from joining multiplayer games so they can go cheap on their bandwidth costs. Same reason they reduced the number of possible pets from 50+ with a necro to what is it? 5? They went cheap on their bandwidth cost and server cost. It's not streamlining, it's corporate penny pinching.

-Boss Mechanics are exactly like WOW. They have stupid pet tricks, insta-death tricks, you have to follow a certain pattern to win, and if you die someone has to res you or else you cannot re-enter the instance within the instance.

-There is no increased experience point gain in multiplayer games.

-Loot is split up between all the players in the game, so if only one guy is doing the work while the other is sitting in town, you cannot gain more experience, you cannot gain more loot.

-Stat/DPS Elitism from WOW is here. Back in Diablo 2 you wanted more players to join because it meant more experience and drops for you. Somehow, someway, nobody knows how they did it, but Blizzard removed that incentive to want max numbers of players in a game. Maybe it has something to do with Bnet setup, maybe it has something to do with a max 4 player game even though you never join one in Bnet it's always a 2 player game, maybe it has something to do with the Boss Mechanics, maybe because there is no increase in experience points in multiplayer games, maybe it is the new loot system, maybe it's a combination of all 5, I dunno. But one thing is for sure, Stat/DPS Elitism is here now, and it sucks balls.
 
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Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

Before the game released, I didn't read anything about it...didn't watch the videos...didn't really care about the game. I had decided that I wasn't interested in the hack-n-slash type games anymore. Then I found out one of my sons bought the game and, on a whim, I got it as well. So, I tried it and found that the fun I had with D2 came back with this game. I kind of liked doing the hack-n-slash. Then I connected with my son and we moved through some maps together and that was fun. So, all in all, I rate the game as okay.

Now, to be clear, I'm not interested in multiplayer groups. I'd rather complete the game on my own or with my son. I won't be connecting with other people. One thing I've found is that playing solo is tough. But then, I like tough. It's more of a challenge that way.

Anyway, MMO's are still my favorite, but D3 will always be there for a little hack-n-slash when I get in the mood.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

Diablo 3 is pretty good, I've played it through on a couple characters, the harder difficulties are pretty fun.

I don't know what you're talking about with only having 1 other person, I've played lots of times with 4 people and it was great. The only thing is that with 3 other random people, usually you're not exploring too much or killing everything (sometimes I like to run around and make sure everything is dead). However, with so many people though you're usually running through at a pretty good clip. There's no customization on character model which I would have liked a bit more. Asuka somehow triggers the word filter and they won't let me take it as a name. Harder difficulty levels are tough and require some understanding of mechanics. The boss fights are pretty much tank and spank with a few different mechanics every once in awhile, never really tough though. The harder difficulties there’s a bigger punishment for failure, but so long as you are aware of your surroundings, it’s nothing too hard core.

I like the customization of gear, being able to read out your DPS as you go along so you know how to maximize your equipment. On the AH I do wish that it would show stat changes with equipped items much like when something is in your bag; just because various stats affect your DPS more. I haven’t used “real” money on the AH and don’t really know what that’s about.

I like the bit about “stat elitism”, it’s like when people bitched about DPS meters. It was usually those who couldn’t DPS and wanted to hide in the group bitching the hardest about it. But if the goal is to win, then you shouldn’t hamstring yourself with a crappy player who can’t understand math well enough to gear properly.

Overall, it’s a fun game. It’s not as engaging as an actual MMOG, but as a dungeon crawling hack and slash, it’s pretty fun. Missed the boat on a few customizations, options and such, but 4 players running through on the harder difficulty settings is pretty fun and challenging. Rapid Fire is one of the best abilities ever. I would say that if you’re a fan of Diablo and Diablo 2, that this is a good game to buy. Really harkens back to the old feel of Diablo.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

They can always patch it you know. Further, I'm doing okay with the game. I haven't played that much, sure, but I have enjoyed it. I am having a problem where shortly after a temple, I was in for a dramatic shock for how easily I was going to die. I was doing great beforehand and then I wander in the woods and get destroyed with each mob. It's strange.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

I like the bit about “stat elitism”, it’s like when people bitched about DPS meters. It was usually those who couldn’t DPS and wanted to hide in the group bitching the hardest about it. But if the goal is to win, then you shouldn’t hamstring yourself with a crappy player who can’t understand math well enough to gear properly.

You don't understand. In D2 you needed a full 8 player game to properly farm gear, or get power leveled, or power level someone else. All of that is gone for this WOW abomination.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

You don't understand. In D2 you needed a full 8 player game to properly farm gear, or get power leveled, or power level someone else. All of that is gone for this WOW abomination.

you can power level in d3,there are players who have hit lvl 60 in a few hours in runs during act 2-4 on higher difficulties at lower levels.

you can farm gear easily with the nephalim buff at lvl 60,and in d2 i always solo farmed,and i used to have one of the top 50 barbarians on us west way back in the day.actually i barely farmed i mostly just free epic gear from friends that would run bots all day.

the game itself is pretty awesome,its everything outside the core game thats terrible.i can already see massive patching to end the choose a quest and getting randomly thrown in a game with the d2 style choose a game.the item system is broken but that will probably be fixed too.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

Why would I pay money for a game that I can't play when I want to play?
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

You don't understand. In D2 you needed a full 8 player game to properly farm gear, or get power leveled, or power level someone else. All of that is gone for this WOW abomination.

8 player was superior. Still I don't think this is a WoW clone in the least. 4 player is still fun, with luck there will be patches and such as there are things which need to be addressed . I still think it captures the feel of the old Diablo games well.
 
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I can't decide if I want to buy this game or not. I always preferred Diablo in single player format anyway, so none of the OP's concerns really matter to me.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni



All you do is whine. Every post I think i've ever seen you make has been negative. Cheer up man. Life's not as terrible as you think.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

I have yet to purchase it, but multiple people who I play games with have purchased it, so I'll probably be dragged into doing so soon.

They sounded like they were having fun, on vent.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

8 player was superior. Still I don't think this is a WoW clone in the least. 4 player is still fun, with luck there will be patches and such as there are things which need to be addressed . I still think it captures the feel of the old Diablo games well.

It captures the feel of WOW.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

I can't decide if I want to buy this game or not. I always preferred Diablo in single player format anyway, so none of the OP's concerns really matter to me.

I haven't found a single piece of Unique, super unique, or set pieces. They're all rares or very rares.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

All you do is whine. Every post I think i've ever seen you make has been negative. Cheer up man. Life's not as terrible as you think.

Some of us can't drug away our real feelings with anti-depressants or illegal drugs, we actually have to deal with genuine feelings, so....
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

I dont like the game at all...like ive said, I didnt play any of the other diablos...I was playing all the quakes and halflife and wow.

I got diablo3 free and I played it last night with a long time wow buddy...I cannot like the game...I tried to like it...I quit wow entirely and Im looking for a home..I dont like tera and I bought that..
Im waiting for GuildWars2 release...I will try that..and im watching for other near or new releases...
 
I'm enjoying it. I'm not a fan of the Internet connection requirement but since I've tried the multiplayer it has been quite fun.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

It captures the feel of WOW.

Having played WoW extensively and Diablo 1-3; I can say with measured accuracy that it certainly does not.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

Having played WoW extensively and Diablo 1-3; I can say with measured accuracy that it certainly does not.

Im with you on that...I dont see any wowness to diablo at all...no similarity
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

Some of us can't drug away our real feelings with anti-depressants or illegal drugs, we actually have to deal with genuine feelings, so....
Some of us can be happy and positive (or relatively so) without drugs.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

People with emphysema can run marathons, but I wouldn't recommend it.

try power leveling in d2 to max level in 3 hours???TRY MORE LIKE 2 WEEKS with a bot and months without one.


magic find gets way better at level 60 with the nephalim buff,people are getting 3-5 drops at act bosses and running an entire act up to 15 rares,most people playing 8 hours a day after lvl 60 are getting atleast one rare or set a day.


now if your a casual player,ofcouse at that rate you wont get uber items,but in d2 except cetain patches all you got were mostly low level items.infact in patch 1.10 i got awesome gear from mephisto runs,patch 1.11 after i could do 1000 runs and not find anything usefull.so even diablo 2 sucked on mf for many patches.

d3 does have broken items,just wait and they will be fixed,because blizz has to do something when 100's ofposters per day are crying about the same few problems.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

try power leveling in d2 to max level in 3 hours???TRY MORE LIKE 2 WEEKS with a bot and months without one.


magic find gets way better at level 60 with the nephalim buff,people are getting 3-5 drops at act bosses and running an entire act up to 15 rares,most people playing 8 hours a day after lvl 60 are getting atleast one rare or set a day.


now if your a casual player,ofcouse at that rate you wont get uber items,but in d2 except cetain patches all you got were mostly low level items.infact in patch 1.10 i got awesome gear from mephisto runs,patch 1.11 after i could do 1000 runs and not find anything usefull.so even diablo 2 sucked on mf for many patches.

d3 does have broken items,just wait and they will be fixed,because blizz has to do something when 100's ofposters per day are crying about the same few problems.
Having visited various game forums from time to time, I come away with the impression that the entire purpose of posters on game forums is to cry.

Thing is, game forum posters are a minority of the players involved.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

Having visited various game forums from time to time, I come away with the impression that the entire purpose of posters on game forums is to cry.

Thing is, game forum posters are a minority of the players involved.

most of those whiners i can relate with,the game itself was only beta tested at low lever,and never improved beyond beta.

blizzard admittedthier in house testers couldnt even complete the hardest difficulty and pretty much ignored testing the rest of the game.from thewhiners pov its an awesome gamewith many holes in it,kinda like buying a corvette with no doors radio seats hood or muffler,and getting told youll recieve them at a later date.

the game after being sold is still technically in beta testing phase,updates will come later.if your a die hard diablo fan buy it if not go ahead and wait a few months for patches to come out,because even blizzard has said its a halffinished game!!!!
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

So I bought Diablo 3.

Not sure if my never having played Diablo 1 or 2 affects my opinion much, but I enjoy Diablo 3 so far - the story is quite interesting.
 
Re: OMG Don't buy Diablo 3, it blows chunks, save your money, Surgeon General's Warni

So I bought Diablo 3.

Not sure if my never having played Diablo 1 or 2 affects my opinion much, but I enjoy Diablo 3 so far - the story is quite interesting.

matt foley is just sad.truthfully d3 is fun until you finish hell,and unless you play 10 hours a day that should take a while.d3 was never finished,pvp was never installed in the game and the item system is broken.

people like him dont realize diablo 2 was exactly the same on release,and that d3 needs many fixes,most of which blizzard has acknolwedged the game needs massive tweeks.its just a waiting game,but unless you are the play 10-15 hours a day crowd,d3 will keep you entertained while waiting for fixes.
 
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