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Where in the Constitution of the US...

Scarecrow Akhbar said:
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So if someone decided that if they want to eat it that right-whale steaks is "pizza", you're all for her eating all the "pizza" she wants?

Or, if OJ decides the Nicole Brown isn't person, she isn't, so it's okay for him to kill her?

Your failure to use logic brands you as a liberals, beyond doubt or question.
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NoJingoLingo said:
You'll forgive me if I find it difficult to see how closing gitmo is handing our enemies an advantage.
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war is, at best, zero sum. when you remove an effective tool that benefits you, you help them. similarly, when you take hundreds of trained jihadists, and give them civilian trials with all the odds stacked in their favor (and the almost inevitable conclusion that judges will order some of them released into the United States), you are making yourself look like a fool in public, and you are setting yourself up for more attacks in-conus. both of those fuel recruiting. a trial that no one sees that results in a swift death penalty for KSM & co. is of extremely limited use for AQ and affiliates. a long, drawn-out public trial where they are able to make their cases, boldly "stick it to the man" and so forth that possibly ends in someone being released?!?

it might not be as damaging as the Abu Ghraib photos, but it would likely be close.

Is keeping gitmo open more important than reducing terrorist recruiting?
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gitmo does almost nothing for terrorist recruiting. trust me on this, i've dealt with lots of enemy propaganda, and seen which campaigns were effective for them, and which ones were not.
 
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cpwill said:
war is, at best, zero sum. when you remove an effective tool that benefits you, you help them. similarly, when you take hundreds of trained jihadists, and give them civilian trials with all the odds stacked in their favor (and the almost inevitable conclusion that judges will order some of them released into the United States), you are making yourself look like a fool in public, and you are setting yourself up for more attacks in-conus. both of those fuel recruiting. a trial that no one sees that results in a swift death penalty for KSM & co. is of extremely limited use for AQ and affiliates. a long, drawn-out public trial where they are able to make their cases, boldly "stick it to the man" and so forth that possibly ends in someone being released?!?

it might not be as damaging as the Abu Ghraib photos, but it would likely be close.
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I don't see the benefit of Gitmo.
Over 200 terrorists have been tried and convicted in Civilian courts. NOT ONE person ever put on trial for terrorism in the USA has been acquitted or released on a technicality. Those facts kinda make you look paranoid and foolish.

gitmo does almost nothing for terrorist recruiting. trust me on this, i've dealt with lots of enemy propaganda, and seen which campaigns were effective for them, and which ones were not.
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Pardon me if I prefer to believe that actual experts.
 
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cpwill said:
war is, at best, zero sum. when you remove an effective tool that benefits you, you help them. similarly, when you take hundreds of trained jihadists, and give them civilian trials with all the odds stacked in their favor (and the almost inevitable conclusion that judges will order some of them released into the United States), you are making yourself look like a fool in public, and you are setting yourself up for more attacks in-conus. both of those fuel recruiting. a trial that no one sees that results in a swift death penalty for KSM & co. is of extremely limited use for AQ and affiliates. a long, drawn-out public trial where they are able to make their cases, boldly "stick it to the man" and so forth that possibly ends in someone being released?!?
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If they're so obviously trained jihadists, then you shouldn't be afraid of a trial for them.
 
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