DarkWizard12

Well, as the democrats have control of both houses of congress, the current "ruling" class I think has no intention of forcing morals.

There is no "forcing" in a democracy. The ruling class is the mass.

talloulou

Can you imagine if an OBGYN absolutely had to do abortions in order to work for a certain group? Ridiculous. All this proposal does is continue to protect their right to refuse doing such procedures (in work settings that rely on federal aid) which has been the status quo. The whole birth control matter is stickier but birth control accessibility isn't going anywhere.

Scucca

I love your innocence, never lose it (and therefore don't continue to read this post)

The imposition of morality can only be understood by reference to economic relations (and how they encourage compliance). Thus, capitalism feeds off asymmetric family power as it supports the required hierarchical labour relationships needed to maximise economic rents (e.g. it maximises underpayment via discriminaton). We could then only understand 'abortion crime' by referring to the maintenance of unequal power divides in the family.

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prometeus

Let me see if I get your position correctly: If a person has their own business they can sell anything they want and no one should force them otherwise, like in the instance of the pharmacy discussed in a previous thread. Then is another person wants to work for someone else's business that does provide certain services, that person should be able to refuse providing said service, even against the interest of the employer.
Do you see a double standard here?

talloulou

If a hospital, clinic, or pharmacy is in the business of providing numerous services one needn't be prochoice to work there. The opposite of the proposal would be clinics and/or hospitals forcing drs. who do numerous procedures to also do abortions against their will. I don't see much point in that.

Jerry

Pro-Choice.

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MC.no.spin

We're currently under the mercy of Anthony Kennedy as to what is moral.

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CaptainCourtesy

I sense a personhood discussion looming its head over this sequence.

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DeeJayH

isn't that how it usually goes?

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prometeus

The point is that anyone who can not perform tasks that are routinely done, to not seek employment in places that those tasks are done.
Just what is a hospital supposed to do if the attending physician is not willing to do his job?