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Old 07-08-08, 08:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Your daft. First off, what percent of child fatalities are due to neglect and abuse?
I've already stated that the US poor record in terms of child fatalities is due to numerous reasons, with abortion restrictions only a minor aspect. Try adding something!

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So before we can even suggest less restrictions on abortion will bring down the child fatality rate in the US
The empirical analysis referenced certainly suggests it will.
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I've already stated that the US poor record in terms of child fatalities is due to numerous reasons, with abortion restrictions only a minor aspect. Try adding something!


The empirical analysis referenced certainly suggests it will.
Well if the aspect is minor than how does less restriction on abortion have anything but an inconsequential effect if any at all?

The way I see it you entire concern is built on a false premise. Child fatality and abortion have little to do with one another since the poor wittle fetuses aren't counted as children and the amount of child fatalities resulting from abuse and neglect is small.
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Published journals tend to rely on money to pay for publication. How easy do you right wingers hate the market?

I'm happy to provide any information you require. Data source? Econometric methodology? What?


Given my comment was a clarification, that was you in vacuous overdrive



man who talk lot say so little.


Your contention is that if we killed the babies in the womb we would have a lower child mortality rate.

What you FAILED to answer is:


1. Demonstrate that if the laws were changed from the present state that more abortions would occur.

2. demonstrate that families would have chosen abortion but instead choice to have the child are more likley to be negletive parents.



Your hypothesis is barely a house of pseudo-intellectual nonsense.
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Well if the aspect is minor than how does less restriction on abortion have anything but an inconsequential effect if any at all?
Read the first post: "Many of the restrictions are found to be significantly associated with increased homicide-resultant fatal injuries for white and black children, and increased unintentional fatal injuries for white children". Note the vocab choice: "significant"
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Read the first post: "Many of the restrictions are found to be significantly associated with increased homicide-resultant fatal injuries for white and black children, and increased unintentional fatal injuries for white children". Note the vocab choice: "significant"



It is significant bunk unless you can provide the source and access to your data.


Your line of "Cause my secret pay per view study says so" is sophomoric at best.
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Read the first post: "Many of the restrictions are found to be significantly associated with increased homicide-resultant fatal injuries for white and black children, and increased unintentional fatal injuries for white children". Note the vocab choice: "significant"
Anyone can write an article. Please.

It's only significant if there's evidence that it's significant. I do think child abuse runs rampant but the numbers of fatal abuse are, I'm sure, very small.

Personally I'd rather be abused a bit, survive, and live long enough to flee my bad parents vs. being killed by a white coat.

I find the argument that we can stop abuse by allowing more mothers to kill indiscriminately, freed up from all those pesky restrictions, funny. Sick and twisted, but funny. Black humor.
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It is significant bunk unless you can provide the source and access to your data.
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This study uses state-level longitudinal data on fatal-injury rates over the period 1981-2002 for all states and the District of Columbia. The data is obtained from the Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System (WISQAR), made publicly available by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It is based on the number of fatal injuries by cause of injury available from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), and corresponding population estimates from the Census Bureau.

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Your line of "Cause my secret pay per view study says so" is sophomoric at best.
Everyone can access the publication. We do not have to be rely on asking Billy Bob in the showers for evidence!
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Anyone can write an article. Please.

It's only significant if there's evidence that it's significant. I do think child abuse runs rampant but the numbers of fatal abuse are, I'm sure, very small.

Personally I'd rather be abused a bit, survive, and live long enough to flee my bad parents vs. being killed by a white coat.

I find the argument that we can stop abuse by allowing more mothers to kill indiscriminately, freed up from all those pesky restrictions, funny. Sick and twisted, but funny. Black humor.


I find it rather goofy in sort of a savage savant sort of way/.
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How come these great prochoice arguments never end up on bumper stickers?

"Abortion Nips Child Abuse in the bud."

Or

"Screw nipping it in the bud, kill when its got legs. No restrictions"

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"Don't abuse the unwanted, kill 'em!"
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