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Old 06-09-08, 05:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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There's just no evidence to support that premise (indeed, the evidence suggests that higher abortion problems are likely).
You're claiming that you have examined each and every single piece of evidence in existence, that you possess a full and complete body of knowledge of every abortion related fact, and you have ruled out my argument. All this, without even seeing what my argument would have been or what evidence I may have presented.

Well, okay then, that at least saves us a lot of time.

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In the mean time, as you try to purify your culture, the illegal market will kill and maim.
I think of it as cleaning a pool.

Our culture is a pool left neglected. It's infested with garbage and debree, black and green algi grow unchecked over all surfaces and various disease spreading bugs nest and lay their eggs.

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A black market is still a market, it operates by the same rules, and I would dare say that the black market is the freest market, which is why it thrives.

Yes, the illegal market would continue as is does for every other illegal act. I have made no claim to the contrary. As the black market is not under the rules and regulations of the white market, no regulation can control it ( I just wish gun controle activists understood this fact).

Imo, just as with illegal drug use, illegal contract killing, illegal immigration, illegal gambling, illegal _________, the bast way is to turn the harts of the people away from the activity. This reduces demand for the illegal activity, drives prices up, and slows the black economy.
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Old 06-09-08, 05:24 PM   #62 (permalink)
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You're claiming that you have examined each and every single piece of evidence in existence, that you possess a full and complete body of knowledge of every abortion related fact, and you have ruled out my argument.
I've referred to the available evidence, you haven't. I don't mind you correcting that error

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Our culture is a pool left neglected. It's infested with garbage and debree, black and green algi grow unchecked over all surfaces and various disease spreading bugs nest and lay their eggs.
What wonderous ways would you wander towards in your willingness to purify? So far I only see a vague "if only"

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A black market is still a market, it operates by the same rules, and I would dare say that the black market is the freest market, which is why it thrives.
It is never a good idea to have a free market in health care. The problem of asymmetric information is a dreadful destroyer

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Yes, the illegal market would continue as is does for every other illegal act. I have made no claim to the contrary.
Deterioration in mortality and morbidity therefore ensured

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Imo, just as with illegal drug use, illegal contract killing, illegal immigration, illegal gambling, illegal _________, the bast way is to turn the harts of the people away from the activity. This reduces demand for the illegal activity, drives prices up, and slows the black economy.
You could play make believe and pray for a shifting demand curve. I've never found that a useful tactic though. Have you got anything more concrete than hope? (particularly given the superior results achieved by a permissive/educated society)
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how many abortions per 100,000 births?
I believe it was 83.
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Can the pro-life brigade use their near-terrorist methods to restrict the demand for abortion? It is an important question as, assuming rationality, their motivation should be about reducing the demand for abortions. The evidence is not supportive. Medoff (2003, The impact of anti-abortion activities on state abortion rates, Journal of Socioeconomics, Vol 32, pp 265-282), for example, writes:

Using 1992 data from the 50 U.S. states, the empirical results find that anti-abortion harassment activities (picketing, picketing with contact, vandalism, bomb threats, and stalking) did not significantly reduce the demand for abortion within a state nor did they cause a change in the location of the abortion procedure.

The continued failure of the pro-life movement to target abortion demand describes clearly that their morality coercion techniques are inconsistent with a rational anti-abortion strategy.
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