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Old 07-17-08, 09:40 PM   #261 (permalink)
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Thats the problem. "Why bother teaching them". Why bother having them if your not going to teach them. I can teach my kids about things that teachers can't. I can put put it to them in ways that teachers would be sued for.
I know my kids better than any teacher. I have only two kids to teach. Teachers can have hundreds of kids to teach. Not to mention, they are require by law to teach them only certain things in certain ways. They are given only the resources that are allowed. Maybe not the resources that are available.
But as a parent, my resources are unlimited. I can tell or show my kids anything I want, to get my point accross in a way that I know will have a lasting effect.
Parents are the first and best Teacher that a child will ever have.
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Old 07-17-08, 09:41 PM   #262 (permalink)
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Parents are the first and best Teacher that a child will ever have.
I agree--except with the caveat: "could ever have"
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Old 07-17-08, 09:51 PM   #263 (permalink)
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Parents are the first and best Teacher that a child will ever have.
I'd say should have. But even then, from what perspective? As people we are not all equally equipped with the knowledge and wisdom to guide children, even if the dedication does exist. Sadly enough, I think we agree that often it does not.

In saying "the best" a certain absolute is implied, yet in education there are no absolutes, only deficiencies. Is a conservative education better than a liberal one? Or vice versa? For whom? The teacher or the pupil?
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Old 07-17-08, 10:03 PM   #264 (permalink)
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I agree--except with the caveat: "could ever have"

I meant "best" as in... they will engrain their good or bad into their child better than anybody else will ever be able too, since they are with them since birth and most of the time, far longer than anybody else in the world as they grow. That "best". Not "positive"
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Nonpositive can be a negative. If you mean zero then say zero. As it is, there are more chances that saying nonpositive means a negative than it does a zero.
Crikey, you been on the cocktails? Non-positive is the correct vocab as my comment required that the net marginal benefit is reduced to deter criminal activity. We have to also refer to the importance of zero as that would imply indifference (and therefore deterrence would still be operating as the attractiveness of committing the crime has still been eliminated)
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well obviously anybody who is not pro-wholesaleslaugterofouroffspring is only interested in teaching abstinence only
Teaching abstinence shouldn't be the only emphasis in an Anatomy Class. All areas of how the body works, what can be done to control certain functions should be part of such a class. School is preparation for life, mainly getting a job, if you get pregnant at such a young age you're going to have a really hard life. I see nothing wrong with pointing this out.

Pro-wholesale slaughter of our offspring is a religious philosophy and even the religions have not always been together on it. There are Christian religions today that aren't against abortion. We can't push our philosophies on everyone, every minute. Best we can do is give kids the tools they need to function as well as they can.

I believe motherhood happens the moment a child is born, before that she is a mother-to-be.
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Re: When does Motherhood Start?

so the day before the woman is not a mother?
what is the role of a mother?
to nurture the child?
does she not do that in the womb also?
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so the day before the woman is not a mother?
Right! She's a mother-to-be. If the woman dies before giving birth she wasn't really a mother. You could call her that, but it wouldn't be factual.

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To take care of a child using her faculties.

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That would be part of it, but anybody could do it.

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Her body does it without her consent. It's not by choice.
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Old 07-21-08, 11:49 AM   #270 (permalink)
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Right! She's a mother-to-be. If the woman dies before giving birth she wasn't really a mother. You could call her that, but it wouldn't be factual.
Actually it's quite factual. She has offspring. Offspring have mothers. A pregnant woman carries a living organism in her womb. This living organism is her male or female offspring. She's the mother.

It takes mild delusions and a willingness to jump through irrelevant off tangent hoops to see it any other way.
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