OKgrannie

Should pro-lifers ever "win" the culture war on abortion, we will still not have peace. We will just be subjected to more protests about contraception.

"Pro-Lifers" Protest Contraception | Rights and Liberties | AlterNet

"Pro-Lifers" Protest Contraception

By Cristina Page, RH Reality Check. Posted May 6, 2008.

Birth control is the best way to lower the abortion rate. So why are anti-choicers rallying against it and claiming that "the pill kills babies"?

Tired of the same-old lame protests outside of abortion clinics? Looking to impose your religious beliefs in other people's lives in a new and exciting way? The pro-life movement would like to expand your horizons.

On June 7th, the anniversary of the Supreme Court decision that gave married people the right to use contraception, the American Life League, along with Pro-Life Wisconsin and Pharmacists for Life International Associate groups want you to join them in protesting in front of facilities that distribute birth control products. The national day against contraception, Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies, was started to convince the American people of a simple and imaginative idea: attempting to prevent abortion is abortion too. These arguments have been confounded by diabolical scientists and experts who insistently point out there's no evidence to support that the birth control pill works the way these groups claim. As we all know, however, if ideology waited for science to prove scientific points, our ancestors would have never have spent all those years wandering the then-flat earth....

And before you despair that your right to privacy is being lost, take comfort in the knowledge that once we all finally live in a country where ideology is valued over evidence and our government is run by and for those who subscribe, or succumb, to the exciting agenda of these groups ... privacy will no longer be needed. Your point of view and way of life will, conveniently, be decided for you. So what are you waiting for?! Sign up now!"

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1069

As far as I'm concerned, it has.
We won.

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RightOfCenter

You haven't won until pro-lifers stop shoving pictures of chopped up fetuses in my face. Get back to work so I can stop being accosted on my way to class.

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Ikari

I have to see it too, it's not something I really wish to see but get the **** over it. If I have to put up with crazy *** Christians telling me I'm going to hell, you can view the result of abortion. It's a free country right now, and they can protest in that manner if they wish, your rights have not been infringed upon.

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RightOfCenter

Did it seem like I didn't want them to be able to protest? I'm simply saying that the argument really isn't won until those people are won over.

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aegyptos

Once control over abortions is returned to the states the argument will simmer down. Conservative states will restrict it and liberal states will celebrate it. No reason why one size must fit all in this question. Abortion is not a right. The states should decide for themselves and I'm sure this is where the Roberts court will take us before too much longer after they invalidate Roe vs Wade.

Ikari

Yeah, it did seem that you didn't want them to protest in that manner. But I see your point now. But you'll never win those people over because those on the Pro-Life side believe the unborn child to be a human life and as a human life, qualified for protection against actions which would rob that child of its life. It's a fundamental moral question in the end, and it's all based on how you choose to view an unborn child and human life.

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OKgrannie

Do you really think anti-choicers will be happy to stop there? They will take their culture war to states that still allow abortion; they will expand their protests against contraception; and anywhere they achieve the tiniest success will see an expansion of the assault against separation of church and state.

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Ikari

I know, how dare those people express their opinions!

By the way, it's not a church and state thing, I'm pro-life and an atheist. Try again.

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aegyptos

No they won't stop and the abortionists won't stop either but most people aren't nearly as invested in this question as you are and they will be happy to let the states decide for themselves. After all, that's the American way.