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The bible does not condemn abortion [W:437:480] *****

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GEIxBattleRifle said:
Some people are just looking to suppress debate on this topic as much as possible. Trying to turn philosophical/ethical discussions into legal discussions.
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Mostly State worshipers. Explains a lot.
 
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CivicED said:
Out of curiosity, do you believe women having abortions could be someday so that they never happen in a country? So do you think for example USA could be abortion free if we expected the conservatives(excluding nuance, and reformed views) view points and enacted them?
(In this theory I would like to exclude the legal ones that are performed on miscarriages.)


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You might want to review this post. :shock:
 
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WCH said:
You might want to review this post. :shock:
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Are you talking about the grammar errors? I use the microphone on my cell phone to type, so I generally have a lot of grammar errors.

Or are you referring to the main topic?

Do you want me to retype my question?


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WCH said:
Legal or not, IMO merely excuses.

Pure Satan inspired evil.
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Nah. I just spoke to Jesus. He said it's not Satan-inspired at all and it's not murder.
 
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minnie616 said:
It does not matter if a fetus is a human ( noun or adjective) the unborn are not persons under US code or US law.

As far as black slaves goes the US counted them as 3/5th persons for the census.
And free blacks were counted as full persons.

The unborn have never been counted as persons ...not even 1/5th of a person.
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Foolish but thank you for playing right into my hands once again.

The constitutional convention's 3/5th compromise bolsters my position. It does not weaken it one bit.

Ironically you fail to realize that slavery would have ended more quickly and the north would have been more powerful had the slaves counted as nothing in the census. If they had counted the same as anyone else, slave states would have had even more advantages than they already did in this nation's first century... And to explore that hypotheticals scenario further, even if counted in the census for purposes of House of Representatives numbers... they still would have been SLAVES... Property... Not persons.


What you pro-aborts support is no different.

You oppose giving legal personhood to some human beings.

Your reasons are just as arbitrary and bigoted as any slavery supporter. Your beliefs are ignorant and should be abandoned.
 
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WCH said:
Legal or not, IMO merely excuses.

Pure Satan inspired evil.
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If your god has no control over satan, then what should that be telling you?
 
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JayDubya said:
You oppose giving legal personhood to some human beings.

Your reasons are just as arbitrary and bigoted as any slavery supporter. Your beliefs are ignorant and should be abandoned.
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I am trying really hard not to strawman you. Please know that.

I feel like we are trying to be logical and not let religion affect how we choose to govern. And one big primary reason abortion was ever legalized in our country is when it became safer to have then to actually proceed with the birth.

I have a couple questions I'd like to ask you to hear your opinions of this.

Do you believe there's more pros than cons to giving a woman the right to choose in a country?

Do you believe a country could 100% prevent abortions from happening?(excluding the legal ones done for miscarriages.)



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Removable Mind said:
If your god has no control over satan, then what should that be telling you?
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Satan controls the Earthly realm. Least until our Savior returns.
 
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CivicED said:
Are you talking about the grammar errors? I use the microphone on my cell phone to type, so I generally have a lot of grammar errors.

Or are you referring to the main topic?

Do you want me to retype my question?


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Unless you're handicapped, stop doing that.
 
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WCH said:
Satan controls the Earthly realm. Least until our Savior returns.
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If you think some horned guy in red pajamas carrying a pitchfork rules this realm,that's on you.
 
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WCH said:
Perhaps one Yoshimo's forgotten realms?
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
I'm Creole,not Japanese.
 
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CivicED said:
I feel like we are trying to be logical and not let religion affect how we choose to govern.
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Religion has nothing to do with it.

And one big primary reason abortion was ever legalized in our country is when it became safer to have then to actually proceed with the birth.
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Irrelevant. Deliberate killings are certainly not safe for the one being killed.

Do you believe there's more pros than cons to giving a woman the right to choose in a country?
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There is no such right. There are no "pros" whatsoever to permitting the killing of innocent human beings.

Do you believe a country could 100% prevent abortions from happening?(excluding the legal ones done for miscarriages.)
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No law is 100% effective.

Theft has been illegal for millennia, thieves still steal.

Slavery is illegal worldwide yet human trafficking occurs.
 
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Scrabaholic said:
Legal abortion is in no way, shape or form, murder. Murder is the ILLEGAL killing of a person by a person. If it's legal, it CANNOT be murder.
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It's illegal in God's eyes.

And in reference to Jeremiah 1:5, there's this question:

"What divine insight does the pro-abortion crowd think they have to where they can destroy in a mother’s womb that which God is somehow instrumental in creating?"

Obama vs. the Bible - Abortion

https://righterreport.com/2011/10/29/obama-vs-the-bible-abortion/
 
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WCH said:
Unless you're handicapped, stop doing that.
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Your handicapped statement is rude to me. Will you please elaborate what "that" is referring too?


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JayDubya said:
Religion has nothing to do with it.



Irrelevant. Deliberate killings are certainly not safe for the one being killed.



There is no such right. There are no "pros" whatsoever to permitting the killing of innocent human beings.



No law is 100% effective.

Theft has been illegal for millennia, thieves still steal.

Slavery is illegal worldwide yet human trafficking occurs.
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Please don't read this and think I am down talking on you. I am happy with your responses, and I feel like you gave me your lens clearly. Thank you for your responses. ✌️


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Logicman said:
It's illegal in God's eyes.

And in reference to Jeremiah 1:5, there's this question:

"What divine insight does the pro-abortion crowd think they have to where they can destroy in a mother’s womb that which God is somehow instrumental in creating?"

Obama vs. the Bible - Abortion

https://righterreport.com/2011/10/29/obama-vs-the-bible-abortion/
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Show me anywhere in the Bible where it forbids a woman from terminating her own pregnancy. Chapter and verse please.
 
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Logicman said:
It's illegal in God's eyes.

And in reference to Jeremiah 1:5, there's this question:

"What divine insight does the pro-abortion crowd think they have to where they can destroy in a mother’s womb that which God is somehow instrumental in creating?"

Obama vs. the Bible - Abortion

https://righterreport.com/2011/10/29/obama-vs-the-bible-abortion/
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Do you believe that there should be a separation between church and state when governing?


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Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13
 
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Scrabaholic said:
Show me anywhere in the Bible where it forbids a woman from terminating her own pregnancy. Chapter and verse please.
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I'm still waiting on you folks to answer the question I posed in reference to Jeremiah 1:5 and Psalm 139:13 where it says God created life in a mother's womb.

What divine insight does the pro-abortion crowd think they have to where they can destroy in a mother’s womb that which God is somehow instrumental in creating?

Answer the question?
 
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Logicman said:
What divine insight does the pro-abortion crowd think they have to where they can destroy in a mother’s womb that which God is somehow instrumental in creating??
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So if a woman is raped for example, that's divine intervention?
 
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