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Ted Cruz Tells Megyn Kelly He Would Force Rape Victims to Carry Rapist’s Baby

Gaugingcatenate said:
Your silliness and unconcern noted, I am sure your inhuman sentiments would have been a hit with those that did not consider slaves to be fellow humans as well. Congratulations, but its not a dead horse that is being beaten, its bodies of tens of millions of fellow humans by this time, in the USA alone.
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Oh the drama...
and the emotional ignorant drivel...
 
JC Callender said:
Thanks, I have to take off now but may read it later. Looks like it's taken from a very liberal university.

Btw, do you see my point? Would you have sex if you knew you would have to get an abortion done afterwards? If not, then why wouldn't you regret an abortion?
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Actually 62 percent of the women in the Turnaway study already had a child/children and although about half of them replied the
Decision to have the abortion was difficult for them 95 percent still felt three years later that their decision to have the abortion
Was the right one for them.

The study, which you can read in full at the link, is titled “Decision Rightness and Emotional Responses to Abortion in the United States: A Longitudinal Study.” (It was published in the science journal PLOS One; we saw it via Think Progress.)

It tracked 667 women between 2008-2010 at 30 facilities across the United States, choosing both women having first-trimester procedures and women terminating pregnancies close to the legal gestational age limit. The participants were, on average, 25 years old; one-third were white, one-third black, 21 percent Latina and 13 percent other races. Sixty-two percent had children, and a little over half said the decision to abort was “difficult or very difficult.”

In follow-up interviews over three years, the authors report, 95 percent of all the respondents “reported that having the abortion was the right decision for them.”
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Study: 'Overwhelming Majority' of Women Don't Regret Their Abortions
 
minnie616 said:
In the Turn-away study ( a five year study ) most of the women in the study secured the abortion they sought and 97 percent said they did not regret it.

More info on Turn Away Study:

Turnaway Study | ANSIRH
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I can only imagine the numbers if they exclusively dealt with rape victims
 
Bucky said:
9 months of "unspeakable" trauma vs the lifetime of regret and sorrow? True empowerment and satisfaction would come in the form of conceiving a beautiful boy and girl.
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Bucky...unfortunately the only comment I can make about your post is NONSENSE!
 
Dragonfly said:
It's beyond horrific, and yet so typically hypocritical, that MEN would sit there and suggest that a rape victim should have no choice but to carry a pregnancy that resulted from rape to term.

It's flat out disgusting, and unforgivable.

I do not (and fortunately to this day can not) even pretend to understand the emotional and physical turmoil a rape victim must deal with.

Men who say such things have no business making laws or representing other people in government.

If Cruz said such a thing, and the context of what he said wasn't totally twisted, then I hope he suffers a crushing defeat long before he holds another political office of any kind anywhere in America.

Truly despicable.
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This probably cements him into the ranks of Texas' elected officials. At the same time, it means he is utterly hopeless with the nation as a whole.
 
JC Callender said:
That sounds ridiculous to me. Even if a woman had no moral compunction about terminating the unborn child, has sex ever been so great that it was worth it to go out and have an abortion done afterwards?
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So many studies show women don't feel regret and actually feel relief.
 
JC Callender said:
Thanks, I have to take off now but may read it later. Looks like it's taken from a very liberal university.

Btw, do you see my point? Would you have sex if you knew you would have to get an abortion done afterwards? If not, then why wouldn't you regret an abortion?
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Do you believe women should be discriminated against for not having a penis? Men aren't morally or legally obligated to proliferate the species - do believe women should be?
 
Bucky said:
9 months of "unspeakable" trauma vs the lifetime of regret and sorrow? True empowerment and satisfaction would come in the form of conceiving a beautiful boy and girl.
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Yeah...and then having the father have visiting rights and be in your life for the next 18 yrs (when released from prison) so being confronted with the man that committed that heinous, horrible, violent crime against you weekly? Maybe more, maybe less? But knowing all the time that you'll be seeing your attacker again and again and that he...a violent criminal... has some control over the raising of your child?

Because these men have the same rights to custody as any other father.

Such 'merciful' people speaking up for rape victims here....yeah, you and Ted Cruz have zero moral High Ground here at all.
 
Fedor50 said:
“Rape is a horrific crime against the humanity of a person. But at the same time, as horrible as the crime is, I don’t believe it’s the child’s fault. We want to do everything we can do to prevent the crime on the front end and to punish the criminal. But I don’t believe it makes sense to blame the child.”

This seems like a perfectly logical, rational sounding position to me. It is consistent, it makes sense, and more importantly he is right.
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I'm sure most women will see it that way. LOL!
 
And just how does this utter moron expect the state to force this hypothetical woman to have her 'rape' baby that she does not want?

Put her in jail and tie her to a bed until she gives birth?

But a dumbass this guy is.
 
JC Callender said:
That sounds ridiculous to me. Even if a woman had no moral compunction about terminating the unborn child, has sex ever been so great that it was worth it to go out and have an abortion done afterwards?
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Couples use birth control (at least 65% in the US) and dont expect to have a pregnancy, but none work 100%. What...should they just not have sex? Really? You may behave as you want to but dont be ridiculous and suggest that couples should forego the enjoyment and intimacy of sex just on the chance of pregnancy.

All thru history the threat of pregnancy has not stopped couples...not the threat of death, STDs, exile, stoning, disownment, etc etc etc has it stopped people from enjoying sex. Why should they stop now when there are safer, legal options?

And there's certainly nothing moral about using govt force of law to make women become mothers against their will when they have those safer, legal options.
 
JC Callender said:
Thanks, I have to take off now but may read it later. Looks like it's taken from a very liberal university.

Btw, do you see my point? Would you have sex if you knew you would have to get an abortion done afterwards? If not, then why wouldn't you regret an abortion?
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I had sex thousands of times in my 13 yr relationship (for one example). We didnt want kids. Are you saying we NEVER should have had sex? We were very vigilent re: birth control...never once without using it... but even so we were lucky considering that no method is 100% and I couldnt take The Pill.

Please try to stick to the realistic in the discussion. Many couples are not yet ready or can afford kids yet but certainly should have sex if they want to. Abortion is a very responsible action for such people....instead of dropping their burdens on taxpayers when they cant take care of or support kids yet.
 
D_NATURED said:
Has it occurred to anyone that, perhaps, both sides are trying to throw the election? If these four are the most qualified human beings to lead this country I wonder if we just need a rube to take the blame when it all goes to ****. I think the common denominator amongst the remaining candidates is that they're all unlikable on some level. With Cruz, that level is deeeep.
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Gee, why am I not surprised this thread is a complete lie? :roll:
 
countryboy said:
The vast majority of serial killers don't regret it. What's your point?
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Women are serial killers because they kill humans on demand for social and economic reasons mainly?

Is that what your saying?
 
countryboy said:
The vast majority of serial killers don't regret it. What's your point?
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She was merely pointing out the error in the previous poster's assumption that guilt would (or perhaps should) be felt by the woman who would choose to end her pregnancy.
 
GEIxBattleRifle said:
Women are serial killers because they kill humans on demand for social and economic reasons mainly?

Is that what your saying?
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First off, that is not what I said, secondly, that's not why most abortions are performed. One more strike and yer out. Lol.
 
countryboy said:
The vast majority of serial killers don't regret it. What's your point?
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Yup. People that make plans to kill another party and then go through all the trouble of hiring someone to make that happen are not likely to regret it.
 
Removable Mind said:
So many studies show women don't feel regret and actually feel relief.
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Well...that is smoothing it over too much, imo.

I have known many women who had abortions and most felt both (relief and regret).


I am pro abortion (especially before fetal brain activity)...but I have more respect for women then to assume most of them have abortions with zero regret.

Lots of women feel a real bond to the fetus...even if they abort the pregnancy.

At least most/all of the one's I have known (though not all of them admitted it right after the abortion - sometimes weeks/months later).
 
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countryboy said:
First off, that is not what I said, secondly, that's not why most abortions are performed. One more strike and yer out. Lol.
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Don't I get two more strikes? :) I'm just having fun at the moment.
 
DA60 said:
Well...that is smoothing it over too much, imo.

I have known many women who had abortions and most felt both (relief and regret).


I am pro abortion (especially before fetal brain activity)...but I have more respect for women then to assume most of them have abortions with zero regret.

Lots of women feel a real bond to the fetus...even if they abort the pregnancy.
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We all make difficult decisions in life and there are often consequences. That does not mean they are the wrong decisions.

Divorce is a good example....incredibly sad, difficult, stressful life decision for many but they do so in the belief that in the long run, they and their families will be better off. And still usually the right decision.

Living with our decisions in life, with our own consequences, is part of life.
 
Lursa said:
We all make difficult decisions in life and there are often consequences. That does not mean they are the wrong decisions.

Divorce is a good example....incredibly sad, difficult, stressful life decision for many but they do so in the belief that in the long run, they and their families will be better off. And still usually the right decision.

Living with our decisions in life, with our own consequences, is part of life.
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I said nothing about right or wrong.

I simply said that I believe many/most women feel both relief and regret.

You can do the 'right' thing and still regret doing it/having to do it.
 
DA60 said:
I said nothing about right or wrong.

I simply said that I believe many/most women feel both relief and regret.

You can do the 'right' thing and still regret having to do it.
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Doing the right thing often has seriously negative consequences for individuals.

Sorry if I read too much into your previous post.
 
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