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The humanity of prenatal life in human womb cannot be denied

I really don't care if fetal life is significant or not. I was answering your question WHAT IS A HUMAN BEING? And I broke it down for you. Stop adding more **** in.
So you do not think that the life of a human being is significant?
 
Very good. Conversation is over then. I'll keep this page in my favorites to make sure you don't ever attempt a backpedal trying to deny that the unborn aren't humans.
Why do you need to misrepresent words?
A human being is more than a biological classification. That is why we do not have dog beings and horse beings but simply dogs and horses etc. That you simply are not capable or willing to grasp that is quite telling.
 
Why do you need to misrepresent words?
A human being is more than a biological classification. That is why we do not have dog beings and horse beings but simply dogs and horses etc. That you simply are not capable or willing to grasp that is quite telling.
Dog beings and horse beings would be a valid thing to say since the word being can mean existence. It would just seem ''weird'' in conversation since the word being is usually added only to human. Some times rational and intelligent as well

Being | Define Being at Dictionary.com 1. the fact of existing; existence (as opposed to nonexistence).

Now if you would excuse me, I have to answer another post somewhere else.
 
Right, because world population is so much in decline.

:lamo:lamo:lamo Well maybe in your world...

Japan has a million less people than just two years ago. Of course the third world dregs are breeding like rabbits.

Now back to your pen, persona non grata
 
They knew all those stuffs from of old but they refuse to accept scientific fact and then put up a false pretense.

Now they go on to taxonomy and twist it out of shape. It's hard to pin down a shadow.


so um whys it matter that a zygote ( well a human one but you know what i mean ) is human?

you tell us that development and ability is not what matters when it comes to human life

that just being human is whats important

why?
 
Doctors cannot be forced to do tubals? Why not? If govt can force a Christian baker to bake wedding cake for gay couples or pharmacists to dispense abortifacient why not doctors? Whatever happens to your body, your right? Whatever happens to women's choice? Whatever happens to sexual discrimination?

WTF are you on about? We are discussing tubal ligation.


Whether Roe v Wade is meaningless to you or not isn't the point here. The point is that women's proabortion movement was able to turn tide to win their demand, why can't they do so with asking doctors to simply respect their right to choose radical sterilization without being patronized?

Why are you asking me? Ask THEM!


And shouldn't there be a horde of doctors rushing to support women's right to choose as they did in abortion despite being threatened with life & limb? Performing sterilization ain't going to stir up public outcry or vigilante killing. So, that shouldn't cause problem to doctors into offering their service for a perceived good cause for women's rights, right?

Your opinion doesn't change the FACT that very few doctors will do it. They cannot be forced to do it and it's my understanding they don't do it for fear of being sued if the woman changes her mind down the road. Perhaps your outrage should be directed at the judges who give out such inane awards instead of at the messenger.
 
I answered your damn question.

Women should have never been given that liberty.
 
WTF are you on about? We are discussing tubal ligation.




Why are you asking me? Ask THEM!




Your opinion doesn't change the FACT that very few doctors will do it. They cannot be forced to do it and it's my understanding they don't do it for fear of being sued if the woman changes her mind down the road. Perhaps your outrage should be directed at the judges who give out such inane awards instead of at the messenger.

I called that a bunch of lame excuses. That didn't stop proabortion movement to achieve what they wanted, did it?
 
Why should sperm donors be punished for crime they did not commit and have no part, unless they are involved in the decision of aborting their own offsprings? In abortion, it's the women who decide to walk into abortion clinics for the procedure done unless they are forced to do so. The Constitution said nothing about abortion. So, you can stop spreading falsehood for once.

Yes, they co-created the human life. They are 50% responsible for it's creation. No ejaculation, no zygote, embryo, or fetus. Just as guilty.

And your last comment....about the Constitution. You obviously don't understand its meaning or the judicial process that uses it as a blueprint for our legal system.
 
Yes, they co-created the human life. They are 50% responsible for it's creation. No ejaculation, no zygote, embryo, or fetus. Just as guilty.

They co-create but not co-murder unless the man has played a role in the abortion decision.
 
Japan has a million less people than just two years ago. Of course the third world dregs are breeding like rabbits.

Now back to your pen, persona non grata
So not surprisingly your bigotry shines through, again. What a fine christian you are...
 
unborn are human(adj), thats a fact
the definition of homicide is the definition, and its EXACTLY what makes "abortion" not homicide

so please do so and I can help you understand your mistake and educate you using facts

Yes I agree Agent J the unborn are human(adj) AND are humans (noun). You left that fact out for some reason. I'll now post some information from my embryology text books that all agree that a human exists once a zygote.


1. Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being. (Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2)


2. The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote.
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]


3. Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression ‘fertilized ovum’ refers to the zygote.
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]

Now with that fact already established, that the unborn are humans both the adjective and the noun, I will proceed to list the definition of homicide Homicide legal definition of homicide- The killing of one human being by another human being. That's exactly what elective abortion is.

Conclusion: Abortion is homicide since a human's life is ended. 100% fact.

I could go on and on but I'll stop here.

simple question, yes or no, can a homicide be committed a homicide on something already dead?

Homicide is the killing of a human. The result is a dead human. You can't kill a human that is already dead but if there death was caused by another human, it's a homicide.


also im still waiting for you to back up the other lie you posted "Most pro choicers on this site deny the "ZEF" is a human (noun.)" thanks! :D

Scrabaholic said that abortion isn't homicide so that's denying the unborn are humans(noun)

Minnie616 said recently ''A human fetus is human but not a human(noun)''. Admitted that the unborn are humans but denying it at the end of her sentence.

At the start of Agent J's posting he merely say's the unborn are human(adj) and has denied the unborn are humans. (noun)
 
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They co-create but not co-murder unless the man has played a role in the abortion decision.

It matters not. The abortion is a result of an unwanted pregnancy in the eyes of a woman...and yes, the Constitution supports a woman's decision to abort.
 
Clearly you have never stopped to think why? By all means go and answer the easy posts, those are more your speed.

I already know why from FutureIncoming years back don't pull that **** on me. Being can mean existence or used as a synonym for person. Rational beings, autonomous beings and intelligent beings are often used in conversation hinting that people probably think it takes more then species membership to determine what constitutes a person in the first place.

I was correct in saying horse beings can be valid in the first place since the word being can mean existence and provided a link for it. You did nothing here but stooped to a indirect insult. Another one of those and it's gg.
 
It matters not. The abortion is a result of an unwanted pregnancy in the eyes of a woman...and yes, the Constitution supports a woman's decision to abort.

It matters a lot but you switched focus to ... abortion a result of an unwanted pregnancy. Still, it's a murder. The person or persons who made the decision to abort is guilty or murder.
 
It matters a lot but you switched focus to ... abortion a result of an unwanted pregnancy. Still, it's a murder. The person or persons who made the decision to abort is guilty or murder.

You're "dead" wrong. In the eyes of our judicial system that is not true. If we're going to make women the scapegoat and punish her for having a uterus...then the dick who ejaculated sperm into her is equally guilt.
 
I already know why from FutureIncoming years back don't pull that **** on me.
I did not pull anything on you, but simply shown that you purposely are limiting the conversation to suit your conceptions.

Being can mean...
Yea and traffic can be murder too yet no one investigates. Word games are just that.

Bottom line is that you do not believe that the lives of human beings is significant.
 
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