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Kasich signs bill to defund Planned Parenthood

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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Gov. John Kasich signed legislation Sunday to strip government money from Planned Parenthood in Ohio, an expected move that came one day after the Republican presidential contender’s weak performance in his party’s South Carolina primary

The legislation prohibits such funds from going to entities that perform or promote abortions, their affiliates and those that contract with an entity that performs abortions.
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Kasich signs Ohio bill diverting Planned Parenthood funding - Washington Times
 
I'm not clear on one thing. If it's mostly federal money and some of it has already been assigned by the federal government to organizations such as PP, how can a state governor divert the funds? Doesn't that open the door for the federal government to start giving the money directly to places like PP, therefore decreasing the amount the state government actually receives?

My other concern is on where the money is being diverted to. Are these other organizations equipped and ready to take over all the non-abortion related work that PP does every day? If yes, then I have no major issue with this. But if the governor signs a bill without making 100% sure that these other services are guaranteed to the people who need them by alternate organizations, that is a big problem.
 
Tax payer dollars should not go to planned parenthood period. If those non-abortion services are so needed for the poor then that money can be given to organizations that do not do abortion.
 
joG said:
All pp need do, is to separate the activities that are Constitutionally controversial from the others. It seems quite straightforward.
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Might have something to do with the profits from abortions and their byproducts.
 
More proof that republicans hate poor people.
 
azgreg said:
More proof that republicans hate poor people.
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More proof Republicans aren't driven by irrational hate of their fellow human beings, like Democrats (greens, socialists, other typical pro-abort groups etc) clearly are given their support for Cecile Richards's campaign of mass killing for profit.
 
Republicans are making a real mistake here, and down the road they will get treated harshly for the stance of trying to go after Planned Parenthood on abortions and ending up impacting "HIV testing, breast and cervical cancer screenings, and prevention of violence against women."

Politically it will be easy to use this against Republicans, with very little effort needed to spin it.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Republicans are making a real mistake here, and down the road they will get treated harshly for the stance of trying to go after Planned Parenthood on abortions and ending up impacting "HIV testing, breast and cervical cancer screenings, and prevention of violence against women."

Politically it will be easy to use this against Republicans, with very little effort needed to spin it.
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This entire election is a blessing for democrats.
 
JayDubya said:
More proof Republicans aren't driven by irrational hate of their fellow human beings, like Democrats (greens, socialists, other typical pro-abort groups etc) clearly are given their support for Cecile Richards's campaign of mass killing for profit.
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I understand your stance on abortion and that's fine. However, federal funding doesn't go towards abortions. Federal funds used at PP are for all other women's health issues. It's too bad that you don't care for the health of your fellow Americans, especially those who are not in the obvious advantaged financial position you're in.
 
Oh the irony
The House gave its final approval earlier this month on a mostly party-line vote, with the bill’s Democratic co-sponsor voting in favor and two Republicans voting against it.
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The bill doesn’t name Planned Parenthood, but backers of the legislation have acknowledged the organization will be the most affected. They want the money to go to health centers and other providers that do not perform abortions.
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Go Kasich.
 
azgreg said:
I understand your stance on abortion and that's fine. However, federal funding doesn't go towards abortions. Federal funds used at PP are for all other women's health issues. It's too bad that you don't care for the health of your fellow Americans, especially those who are not in the obvious advantaged financial position you're in.
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That's not only irrelevant, it's a lie - what I do as an individual to "care for the health of my fellow Americans" is both nunya business and not particularly relevant in political terms, since government has no business being involved in healthcare at all.

Above and beyond that problem, however, is the indignity of being forced to labor to give taxes to any level of government which turns around and gives my money to the McDonalds of contract killing. And spare us all the semantics of funding; money is fungible. If local, state, or federal funds for other things pay for the lights and electricity and whatnot, that leaves all the private donations to kill as many human beings as they possibly can (which is what the nihilistic, misanthropic donors want).

Ideally, donations to Planned Parenthood would warrant at least the same response as donations to Al Qaeda... Al Qaeda, after all, does less damage and has killed fewer.
 
joG said:
All pp need do, is to separate the activities that are Constitutionally controversial from the others. It seems quite straightforward.
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They do, and you've been provided with the data that shows this many times. The $ and services are separate.
 
azgreg said:
More proof that republicans hate poor people.
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LOL While enabling...no, demanding... the production of more of them! :doh
 
Lursa said:
They do, and you've been provided with the data that shows this many times. The $ and services are separate.
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Why? Do you have new informatiin? You hadn't been able show that before.
 
joG said:
Why? Do you have new informatiin? You hadn't been able show that before.
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You were never able to counter the previous info and links so why would I waste my time on more?
 
American said:
Nothing to see here, folks; nothing controversial. Kasich admitted during the debates that he's defunded PP. Move along. :roll:
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No, it just illustrates that pandering is a live and well with the bottom feeder Republican candidates. He took a punch in S.C. contributed it to PP still existing in Ohio and figured he'd play it while he had a chance. It won't help.

But he's failed his constituents in a way that will come back and get him in his political future in Ohio. Women do vote in Ohio.

So ....MEH!
 
Lursa said:
You were never able to counter the previous info and links so why would I waste my time on more?
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I certainly pointed out the obvious to you and explained standard minimum requirements for ethical segregation of funds and pointed out that they did not seem to be maintained. The problem is that you were never able to falsify it. Debate with you is really rather uninteresting.
 
Removable Mind said:
No, it just illustrates that pandering is a live and well with the bottom feeder Republican candidates. He took a punch in S.C. contributed it to PP still existing in Ohio and figured he'd play it while he had a chance. It won't help.

But he's failed his constituents in a way that will come back and get him in his political future in Ohio. Women do vote in Ohio.

So ....MEH!
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Yeah, whatever.
 
jamesrage said:
Tax payer dollars should not go to planned parenthood period. If those non-abortion services are so needed for the poor then that money can be given to organizations that do not do abortion.
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Yeah, how dare they get cancer screenings...:roll:
 
beefheart said:
Yeah, how dare they get cancer screenings...:roll:
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I repeat " If those non-abortion services are so needed for the poor then that money can be given to organizations that do not do abortion."
 
jamesrage said:
I repeat " If those non-abortion services are so needed for the poor then that money can be given to organizations that do not do abortion."
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Or, we can have the pros at PP do it, like they always have.

BTW, abortion is legal, if you don't like it, don't have an abortion.
 
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