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Planned Parenthood

X Factor said:
Funding any of Planned Parenthood means freeing up other funds for their political action which you're totally fine with just because providing abortions is something you like and support. If it were some vocal pro life, Christian group that did all the same things, would you be equally supportive of them?
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What percent of their funding goes to political action? It is likely a fraction of 1% if anything given the graphs I provided in the OP. I want a specific percent. The other 1% in the graph below goes to other services and this is other medical services.
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Only about 40% of their revenue comes from the government so they could cover whatever political operation they do have very easily with or without government funding. I would be totally fine with a pro-life organization receiving government funding as long as this funding was actually being used for these services and not being used to shuffle money to political operations.

In fact many right-wing and religious organizations do get funded by the government for non-political charitable activities.
Charitable choice: Governments funding religious groups
 
X Factor said:
And perform as many abortions as possible and be vocal proponents and the face of abortion.

You know Planned Parenthood does not operate where I live (a fact for which I'm incredibly happy).
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I am reasonably confident you are not a woman so you certainly have no personal need for them.

Not because of anything evil pro lifers did, but because one of these sainted folks stole all the money, they went bankrupt and had to close their doors here, and guess what? Those health services are provided for by other providers (including abortion, a fact for which I'm not happy about). This notion that if PP doesn't do it, it won't happen anymore is silly. Still, I know you'll defend PP at all cost, all supporters do. They're a sacred cow of sorts, regardless of what they do.
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This claim that women can simply so somewhere else has already been refuted.
If Planned Parenthood closes, stats show women can't just 'go somewhere else'

Planned parenthood sees 2.6 million patients annually and make up 60% of women's healthcare. Planned parenthood is very cost effective and if they were defunded a lot of low-income women would have find more expensive and less convenient options for healthcare. Women are choosing Planned Parenthood over most other government funded options because they are really good at providing cheap healthcare.
If Planned Parenthood closes, stats show women can't just 'go somewhere else'

So defunding planned parenthood would not destroy women's healthcare but would make it worse.
 
Average cost of an abortion: $451.
$451x 327,000 abortions = $147,477,000

So they made $147 million of abortion in 2013. Abortions cost way more than any other service they provide, so if abortion accounts for 3% of the total services they provide, it's still the money maker.

Plus the government gave Planned Parenthood $528,000,000 in 2013.
 
truthatallcost said:
Average cost of an abortion: $451.
$451x 327,000 abortions = $147,477,000

So they made $147 million of abortion in 2013. Abortions cost way more than any other service they provide, so if abortion accounts for 3% of the total services they provide, it's still the money maker.

Plus the government gave Planned Parenthood $528,000,000 in 2013.
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Ok,fine. they can charge $5 for an abortion and $400 bucks for a months supply of birth control pills.

Tah dah!!!!
 
truthatallcost said:
Average cost of an abortion: $451.
$451x 327,000 abortions = $147,477,000

So they made $147 million of abortion in 2013. Abortions cost way more than any other service they provide, so if abortion accounts for 3% of the total services they provide, it's still the money maker.

Plus the government gave Planned Parenthood $528,000,000 in 2013.
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Abortions comes in about between 15-37% of their revenue however this is simply not funded by the federal government. It doesn't follow that if government funding stopped that they would stop their abortions. Their non-abortion services are paid by a per-operation bases so government funding cannot be used for any kind of abortion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...3-percent-and-94-percent-are-both-misleading/
 
X Factor said:
Why do people insist that Planned Parenthood must be funded by federal taxpayers or health care for women would cease to exist? Just as we, on the right, often support charities we believe in, why can't those who feel PP is a great and worth cause donate their own money to it? I honestly think many of their supporters enjoy the fact that those who don't support them, have to support them anyway.
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:doh Where do you think the $$ for abortions comes from, since it does not come from fed funds? Private donations. Good lord!

And as for cutting off all PP and other similar facilities, why? You would punish all women and their families by denying them family planning counseling,subsidized birth control, cancer screenings, pre-natal exams, vitamins, etc, STD education, condoms and treatment, etc?

And you would punish everybody else too, including yourself:


U.S. Taxpayers Save $7 for Every $1 the Government Spends on Family Planning
 
We need a constitutional amendment that limits what the Federal Government is allowed to get involved in.

There needs to be a specific list of the things permitted, like national defense, interstate commerce, pure food and drugs, import/export, justice, Federal law enforcement, etc.

There needs to be another list of the things specifically not permitted, like heath and medical (should be the states), foreign aid (this is ransom money), welfare (should be the states), food stamps (should be the states), education (should be the states), etc.

There needs to be a description for criteria for what the Fed's can fund and spend on.

Federal spending is out of control.
 
sangha said:
Hospitals, doctors, nurses and other providers spend far more money lobbying the govt than PP does. Do you want tax money to stop going to them too?

I ask because I'm wondering how many people you're willing to see die
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Stop going to them too -- correct.
 
X Factor said:
Funding any of Planned Parenthood means freeing up other funds for their political action which you're totally fine with just because providing abortions is something you like and support. If it were some vocal pro life, Christian group that did all the same things, would you be equally supportive of them?
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It doesn't free up any funds because they services they provide cost more than the money they receive from the govt for providing those services

And there are vocal, pro-life Christian groups that receive govt money for providing pregnancy-related services
 
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