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Colorado Planned Parenthood shooting: Suspect captured, officer killed

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TurtleDude said:
wouldn't it be a good idea to wait to see what motivated the shooter and who he was before blaming any group?
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Is that what conservatives did after Benghazi or did they cry and whine about how no one used the word "terrorist" soon enough ...?
 
EdwinWillers said:
"Unseemly" is an understatement.

Regardless our worldview, or our politics, or our position on certain issues, all of that should take backstage when innocent people have lost their lives.

Using the deaths of innocent people as an opportunity to get a dig in on one's opponents isn't just unseemly - it's callous and heartless - even more so when such digs are knee-jerk responses to tragedies like this and made before anyone even knows the facts involved.
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You're right, Benghazi is a disgusting political ploy.

What does that have to do with the horror at this violence ?
 
Absentglare said:
Really???

Now you're defending this **** with "bb...bbb...bbbut democrats are just as bad," nonsense?

There is no low that you're unwilling to stoop to, is there? ****ing pathetic.
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What kind of ignorant nonsense are you spewing. Point out the one time here I said anything even remotely related to the crap you posted above. You won't find anything because you made it all up and I've not once defended what happened in Colorado yesterday nor at any other time or place a similar occurrence has taken place.

If you'd been paying attention and followed the thread conversation - a big if considering you're a liberal and emotional histrionics is the liberal birthright - you would have known that Riveroaks claimed that he couldn't think of a single thing that Democrats promote that has lead to any violence by wackos. I pointed out three things that proved his claim wrong.

So take your bbbb blather and spew it at someone else.
 
Absentglare said:
Is that what conservatives did after Benghazi or did they cry and whine about how no one used the word "terrorist" soon enough ...?
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It was the Benghazi coverup that deserves attention ... but anyway, back to the thread topic ... have you heard something about the shooter's motivation?
 
CanadaJohn said:
What kind of ignorant nonsense are you spewing. Point out the one time here I said anything even remotely related to the crap you posted above. You won't find anything because you made it all up and I've not once defended what happened in Colorado yesterday nor at any other time or place a similar occurrence has taken place.

If you'd been paying attention and followed the thread conversation - a big if considering you're a liberal and emotional histrionics is the liberal birthright - you would have known that Riveroaks claimed that he couldn't think of a single thing that Democrats promote that has lead to any violence by wackos. I pointed out three things that proved his claim wrong.

So take your bbbb blather and spew it at someone else.
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You suggest that President Obama has endorsed violence :

CanadaJohn said:
Seriously?

President Obama has basically preached from the Oval Office in support of all of these things and has tacitly if not explicitly condoned or accepted as normal violent means to his social justice agenda.

The three I mentioned are actual campaign and party platforms of the Democrat Party so to claim that Democrats aren't involved in these things is ludicrous.

I'll toss the question right back at you - you made the claim so tell us what part of the Republican Party platform promotes or leads to violence?
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That is, of course, total bull****. He has explicitly and repeatedly condemned violent protest.

Who the **** cares about republicans? People are dead. If this is about anything, it's the hypocrisy, lunacy, and frightening terrorism of some actors in the pro-life movement.
 
bubbabgone said:
It was the Benghazi coverup that deserves attention ... but anyway, back to the thread topic ... have you heard something about the shooter's motivation?
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No, own up to your bull**** hypocrisy. White gun owning terrorist gets the benefit of the doubt but brown people get imprisoned and tortured without trial.
 
TurtleDude said:
wouldn't it be a good idea to wait to see what motivated the shooter and who he was before blaming any group?
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Wouldn't it be a good idea to hold individuals responsible for their actions and not whatever arbitrary group they're associated with? What does it matter if he's a white christian conservative, a brown muslim socialist or a black hindu liberal?
 
Absentglare said:
He has explicitly and repeatedly condemned violent protest.
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While continuously claiming, both he and his administration, an understanding and acceptance of the motivations behind it. That's tacit approval and that's hypocrisy.
 
Riveroaks said:
All the GOP hoopla by Cruz and Paul may have triggered this (no pun intended).

Similar in that respect to the Tucson shooting a while back.

There are wacko's everywhere who are influenced by the wacko's in the GOP on tv.
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May have? Any proof, or just pandering to the liberal base?

Lunacy has filled this thread.
 
Riveroaks said:
Well a large part of our problems are strictly racial.

We had slavery for 250 years and the slave population got up to several million.

Then the slaves were just turned out without any provision for their livelihoods and that resulted in systemic poverty.

We now have millions upon millions of impoverished African Americans -- I would guess around 35 million.

And they are militant.

Canada does not have that problem. It was too cold to grow cotton or tobacco in Canada.

I also cannot see why you think the DEM's are involved in anything on your list. Those things just evolved.
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:sinking:

:2rofll:
 
Absentglare said:
Is that what conservatives did after Benghazi or did they cry and whine about how no one used the word "terrorist" soon enough ...?
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They, apparently unlike you, didn't fall for the "video" coverup.
 
CanadaJohn said:
While continuously claiming, both he and his administration, an understanding and acceptance of the motivations behind it. That's tacit approval and that's hypocrisy.
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You're referring to broad movements with valid motivations.

If we were using this to say "all pro-life people are bad," then you might have some semblance of a point. Problem is, you're just committing logical fallacy after logical fallacy to strain justification for this violence. It's sickening and makes me ashamed that a fellow human being would be so despicable.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1065297211 said:
They, apparently unlike you, didn't fall for the "video" coverup.
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Dare you suggest that republicans didn't parade four brave Americans deaths for political gain ?

Or are you just deflecting because you have no actual response ?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Wouldn't it be a good idea to hold individuals responsible for their actions and not whatever arbitrary group they're associated with? What does it matter if he's a white christian conservative, a brown muslim socialist or a black hindu liberal?
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Exactly. The decision--premeditation--to commit murder is an individual one.
 
Absentglare said:
You're referring to broad movements with valid motivations.

If we were using this to say "all pro-life people are bad," then you might have some semblance of a point. Problem is, you're just committing logical fallacy after logical fallacy to strain justification for this violence. It's sickening and makes me ashamed that a fellow human being would be so despicable.
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Do you have even one example of anyone on this board justifying this attack? No, of course you don't, all you have is ridiculous ad hominem attacks against your perceived enemies. Which is anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool pinko commie piece of ****.
 
Heavy.com has provided good prelim info after several recent news stories. Here's its link, which includes a mug shot of Robert Lewis Dear, 57. There won't be any Benghazi information, though, because this tragic event in Colorado Springs doesn't have anything to do with that.

Robert Lewis Dear: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com
 
Riveroaks said:
Well a large part of our problems are strictly racial.

We had slavery for 250 years and the slave population got up to several million.

Then the slaves were just turned out without any provision for their livelihoods and that resulted in systemic poverty.

We now have millions upon millions of impoverished African Americans -- I would guess around 35 million.

And they are militant.

Canada does not have that problem. It was too cold to grow cotton or tobacco in Canada.

I also cannot see why you think the DEM's are involved in anything on your list. Those things just evolved.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but BLM, Occupy, and all the rest are creations of liberal/Socialist Progressive/Democratic Party actions.

For example:

Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter

Activists for the protest movement are meeting in secret with liberal funder club.

While the Democracy Alliance last year voted to endorse a handful of groups focused on engaging African-Americans in politics ― some of which have helped facilitate the Black Lives movement ― the invitation to movement leaders is a first for the DA, and seems likely to test some members’ comfort zones.

An heir to a Texas oil fortune, Hunt-Hendrix helps lead a coalition of mostly young donors called Solidaire that focuses on movement building. It’s donated more than $200,000 to the Black Lives Matter movement since Brown’s killing. According to its entry on a philanthropy website, more than $61,000 went directly to organizers and organizations on the ground in Ferguson and Baltimore, where the death of Freddie Gray in police custody in April sparked a more recent wave of Black Lives-related protests. An additional $115,000 went to groups that have sprung up to support the movement.

Read more: Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter - POLITICO​

These groups are an invention, not a evolution. The campus protests, and all the rest of the radical activism is being orchestrated. I wonder how people would think if they actually knew they were being led by the nose by a bunch of .01%'ers who just view them as tools in their ideological agenda.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Wouldn't it be a good idea to hold individuals responsible for their actions and not whatever arbitrary group they're associated with? What does it matter if he's a white christian conservative, a brown muslim socialist or a black hindu liberal?
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Only if that action was intended to benefit that individual alone rather than to gain favor with or for that group. Motive is important under the law, killing (or other crime) under orders is viewed differently than when done simply for personal gain.
 
Riveroaks said:
Well a large part of our problems are strictly racial.

We had slavery for 250 years and the slave population got up to several million.

Then the slaves were just turned out without any provision for their livelihoods and that resulted in systemic poverty.

We now have millions upon millions of impoverished African Americans -- I would guess around 35 million.

And they are militant.

Canada does not have that problem. It was too cold to grow cotton or tobacco in Canada.

I also cannot see why you think the DEM's are involved in anything on your list. Those things just evolved.
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many Democrats believe that all blacks in America nerd to be liberal and vote Democratic. Conservative blacks, like Condoleeza Rice,Clarence Thomas, and Bill Cosby or often called Uncle Toms and a traitor to their race The general attitude among liberal and Democratic elitists is that blacks are too unintelligent to be successful and so need to be taken care of by the government, ignore the lots of wealthy and successful blacks there are.

That's the problem.
 
Absentglare said:
You're referring to broad movements with valid motivations.

If we were using this to say "all pro-life people are bad," then you might have some semblance of a point. Problem is, you're just committing logical fallacy after logical fallacy to strain justification for this violence. It's sickening and makes me ashamed that a fellow human being would be so despicable.
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Again, you intruded on a conversation and didn't have the decency or intelligence to actually know the nature of the conversation before you jumped in with your nonsense. The discussion wasn't about pro-life people being good or bad it was about the GOP being responsible for crazy stuff other people do. The claim was that crazy people never do stuff that is spoken about or promoted by Democrats.

So again, get a clue before you blather your platitudes and self-righteous nonsense and claim another poster is despicable when you're incredibly ignorant about what you're commenting on.

On that note, I'm done with your idiocy.
 
Absentglare said:
No, own up to your bull**** hypocrisy. White gun owning terrorist gets the benefit of the doubt but brown people get imprisoned and tortured without trial.
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Whoa Whoa Whoa ... did the dog pee on your bust of Cornell West again this morning?
 
ocean515 said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but BLM, Occupy, and all the rest are creations of liberal/Socialist Progressive/Democratic Party actions.

For example:

Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter

Activists for the protest movement are meeting in secret with liberal funder club.

While the Democracy Alliance last year voted to endorse a handful of groups focused on engaging African-Americans in politics ― some of which have helped facilitate the Black Lives movement ― the invitation to movement leaders is a first for the DA, and seems likely to test some members’ comfort zones.

An heir to a Texas oil fortune, Hunt-Hendrix helps lead a coalition of mostly young donors called Solidaire that focuses on movement building. It’s donated more than $200,000 to the Black Lives Matter movement since Brown’s killing. According to its entry on a philanthropy website, more than $61,000 went directly to organizers and organizations on the ground in Ferguson and Baltimore, where the death of Freddie Gray in police custody in April sparked a more recent wave of Black Lives-related protests. An additional $115,000 went to groups that have sprung up to support the movement.

Read more: Major donors consider funding Black Lives Matter - POLITICO​

These groups are an invention, not a evolution. The campus protests, and all the rest of the radical activism is being orchestrated. I wonder how people would think if they actually knew they were being led by the nose by a bunch of .01%'ers who just view them as tools in their ideological agenda.
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Absolutely right ... and besides the funding, when you watch the <ahem> protests you can pick out the anarchists and such exploiting those things.
And now they have places like Mizzou on another front.
 
PP supposedl selling baby parts is in the news for several months and now someone shoots up a PP. Gee, we couldn't see that coming.
 
calamity said:
PP supposedl selling baby parts is in the news for several months and now someone shoots up a PP. Gee, we couldn't see that coming.
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You're trying to link videos to this crazy man's motives, but you have no evidence of this. Why not wait until you have some facts to assign cause to the effect?
 
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