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Texas Women Are Inducing Their Own Abortions[W:60]

ocean515 said:
Both sides want to force their beliefs on each other. It's foolish to view it any other way.
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Choice allows each woman to make their decision based on their own beliefs. There is no force involved in the pro-choice position.

People not liking other people's choices isnt 'force.'
 
Lursa said:
Choice allows each woman to make their decision based on their own beliefs. There is no force involved in the pro-choice position.

People not liking other people's choices isnt 'force.'
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Then how would you define the effort and response both sides use?

Your sugar coated claim carries little validity given the extreme emotional vitriol lobbed at people who don't support abortion. I think the same holds true for those who want to stop abortion. Both want to force the other from their position.
 
ocean515 said:
Then how would you define the effort and response both sides use?

Your sugar coated claim carries little validity given the extreme emotional vitriol lobbed at people who don't support abortion. I think the same holds true for those who want to stop abortion. Both want to force the other from their position.
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What does the discussion have to do with it?

Where is the force used in the pro-choice position?

While I agree people continue to discuss it because some want it changed and some want to ensure it does not, there is no force applied from observing the 'pro-choice' position, which is currently law.

Lursa said:
People not liking other people's choices isnt 'force.'
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ocean515 said:
Then how would you define the effort and response both sides use?

Your sugar coated claim carries little validity given the extreme emotional vitriol lobbed at people who don't support abortion. I think the same holds true for those who want to stop abortion. Both want to force the other from their position.
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It's not that you don't support abortion, you don't support human rights for women. If you don't support abortion then that means YOU won't have one. There is a difference here that your side is ignoring and that is the degree to which your opinion imposes on the fundamental rights of HUMAN women to not have to endure ANY other life existing within them, without their permission.

If you do nothing else, please refrain from confusing what this is all about.
 
D_NATURED said:
It's not that you don't support abortion, you don't support human rights for women. If you don't support abortion then that means YOU won't have one. There is a difference here that your side is ignoring and that is the degree to which your opinion imposes on the fundamental rights of HUMAN women to not have to endure ANY other life existing within them, without their permission.

If you do nothing else, please refrain from confusing what this is all about.
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I don't support human rights for women? My side? I'm pro-choice.

Geeze, what a colossal fool.

I don't have time for such regurgitation.

Have a nice day.
 
ocean515 said:
I don't support human rights for women? My side? I'm pro-choice.

Geeze, what a colossal fool.

I don't have time for such regurgitation.

Have a nice day.
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If you're pro-choice then do the women of the world a favor and quit deliberately framing the argument in an anti-choice way. When I said "you", I meant those who oppose abortion. You're the colossal fool if you think that human rights are negotiable between religious zealots and those who value liberty. The truth is, the religious zealots will not yield and the human rights advocates will not yield. Those who feel comfortable in the middle of that are just those who are not brave enough to stand up for women.

When you demand that good people be civil to religious terrorists, you ask too much.
 
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