I Changed My Stance On Abortion Because Of Forum Posts[W:547]

[Peter King]

Assuming you meant "could," that means you do care. At least a little.

I think folks should disapprove of others using slurs.

The sad thing is you don't see it; your slur is full of more hate than any other - those who say "nigger" don't necessarily think all black folks are not even human beings and should be killed on a whim. Contrast that with you pro-aborts and your slur, and of course, you all do think exactly that.

Then luckily for me I refrain from slurs, which others here (on the pro-life side mostly) would have the civility to do the same but as they have extremist pro-life on their mind, I am pretty sure that ain't going to be happening any time soon.

Again, keep deluding yourself, you are doing such a good job of it that you actually believe in the nonsense you are posting.

 

[Lursa]

Well, it would be odd if I started said something false since that's really not my thing.

You on the other hand...



Your trash links are to crowdsourced websites where pro-aborts like you put the stupidity in there and affixed the label "medical" to it.

You fail so hard.

Sorry, there were at least 2 links in that post to medical/science-sponsored materials.

Either read to completion or desist in lying.

 

[JayDubya]

Then luckily for me I refrain from slurs

Lie.

which others here (on the pro-life side mostly) would have the civility to do the same

Lie again. I wish you people would have the civility to refrain from dehumanizing slurs, but no, us anti-abortion folks don't do that. That's all you guys.

 

[JayDubya]

Sorry, there were at least 2 links in that post to medical/science-sponsored materials.

Of course. One nigh-unreadable broken English link to online notes from one nursing professor in Iraq. Amazing.

If it were legit, I would type it in Google and it would come up. On the first page. It doesn't, so it isn't.

Hell, even on those crowdsourced websites like acronymfinder - the ones you're pretending are legitimate primary sources - they have a rating system for how legit the result is.

P2P, Peer to peer, 5/5.
MMORPG, Massively multiplayer online role-playing game 5/5
FPS, frames per second 5/5, first person shooter 5/5.

Those are, you know, actual acronyms people use though.

 

[Lursa]

Of course. One nigh-unreadable broken English link to online notes from one nursing professor in Iraq. Amazing.

If it were legit, I would type it in Google and it would come up. On the first page. It doesn't, so it isn't.

Hell, even on those crowdsourced websites like acronymfinder - the ones you're pretending are legitimate primary sources - they have a rating system for how legit the result is.

P2P, Peer to peer, 5/5.
MMORPG, Massively multiplayer online role-playing game 5/5
FPS, frames per second 5/5, first person shooter 5/5.

Those are, you know, actual acronyms people use though.

Your denial is noted as fantasy, again. LOLOLOLOL The written word and many sources are hard for the rational to deny....but you can do so at your leisure. I post them again for those that missed them the first time.

Quotes leading up to definitions:

a) There is no such thing as a "zef;" that is just your bigoted slur.
.

b) Neither "zef" nor "offspring" are within your authority to define.

The former does not have a definition. It is nonsense that only conveys the particular hatred of the one using it.

What does*ZEF*mean? This page is about the various possible meanings of the acronym, abbreviation, shorthand or slang term:*ZEF.
Zygote, Embryo, Fetus
Medical*»*Physiology

What does ZEF stand for?

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What does ZEF Stand For in Medical and Science Category? What does ZEF mean? Here we explain various used meanings for ZEF as acronym, abbreviation or texting slang word. Possible ZEF Meanings and Definitions vary from category to category. Here we show only Medical & Science definitions.
Zygote, Embryo, Fetus
Read more at http://acronymsandslang.com/medicine-and-science/ZEF.html

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ZEF
* The Free Dictionary
Acronym Definition
ZEF Zimbabwe*Exiles*Forum*(Pretoria,*South*Africa)
ZEF Zero*Emissions*Forum
ZEF Zygote*Embryo*Fetus
ZEF Zero*Energy*First*(UK)
ZEF Zebrafish*Embryo*Fibroblast*(biochemistry)
ZEF Zero-Employment*Family*(China)

From <http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Zef>


Additional links for ZEF:
http://www.conursing.uobaghdad.edu....ture/DR huda/Human growth and development.pdf

Developmental psychology
https://quizlet.com/29983045/unit-9-developmental-psychology-flash-cards/



I find it hard to believe the entire medical and science communities hate the unborn and use that acronym as a slur. Those communities are more known for their objectivity.[/QUOTE]

 

[JayDubya]

Your denial is noted as fantasy, again.

Oh look, the exact same retarded spam you used to use and was debunked, you just used and were thoroughly debunked, and now you'll just keep spamming it as though you haven't been rebuked.

Your absence of rebuttal is tantamount to concession.

 

[Lursa]

Oh look, the exact same retarded spam you used to use and was debunked, you just used and were thoroughly debunked, and now you'll just keep spamming it as though you haven't been rebuked.

Your absence of rebuttal is tantamount to concession.

Sorry, you debunked nothing. My post just proves it. Again.

Your singlularly flexible personal dictionary doesnt apply to the rest of the world.

 

[pbrauer]

How many people do you think have actually switched their stance on Abortion for no other reason than they were convinced to on an internet forum?

We've got 100's of threads here, and probably 10's of 1000's of posts on every possible angle, both for and against abortion rights and I have to wonder, has anybody ever been convinced their position was "wrong" and swapped sides?

I'm guessing the number is infinitesimally small.

So why do people insist on making the same arguments over and over again? Both sides are talking to brick walls.

What's the point?

Does anything "good" ever come out of these threads? Do you ever achieve your goal? Whatever that "goal" may be?

Yeah yeah yeah, you think (in your mind only) that you've proven how stupid somebody elses opinions are, but in the end, did you ever change anybody's mind?

It's a hot button issue, but seriously, why bother?
Is the effort worth the fact that there's no reward?

I am pro-woman's health and because I think Roe v Wade is settled law, I don't come to the Abortion forum very often.

 

[JayDubya]

Sorry, you debunked nothing.

Oh okay.

Your crowdsourced links of pure fail are still exactly that.

Your lack of rebuttal, masked as it as within your dogged insistence that you have somehow proved your point with the shoddiest of shoddy evidence, remains a concession.

 

[Lursa]

Oh okay.

Your crowdsourced links of pure fail are still exactly that.

Your lack of rebuttal, masked as it as within your dogged insistence that you have somehow proved your point with the shoddiest of shoddy evidence, remains a concession.

LOL You just repeated yourself. Again to no avail.

My post and supported list of links is here for all to see....and 'comprehend.' LOL

No worries...we can all make up our own minds.

 

[JayDubya]

supported list of links

LOL is right.

BRB gonna go make a Wikipedia entry and then link it as a primary source, herpaderp.

P.S. Those also have 5 stars, BTW.

P.P.S. Which also has 5 stars.

 

[le bouffon]

Well that quote, if you agree with it, supports the notion that you are entirely ignorant of the content of your opponents statements, just like he is.

It also confirms you are also divorced from reality if you also think elective abortions do not occur with premeditation by necessity, as he does.

Elective abortions do occur with premeditation by necessity, either to save the life of the mother or simply the mother deems it necessary to abort the fetus. Either or, it's none of your business.

Of course. One nigh-unreadable broken English link to online notes from one nursing professor in Iraq. Amazing.

If it were legit, I would type it in Google and it would come up. On the first page. It doesn't, so it isn't.

Hell, even on those crowdsourced websites like acronymfinder - the ones you're pretending are legitimate primary sources - they have a rating system for how legit the result is.

P2P, Peer to peer, 5/5.
MMORPG, Massively multiplayer online role-playing game 5/5
FPS, frames per second 5/5, first person shooter 5/5.

Those are, you know, actual acronyms people use though.

Very relevant to the topic, Jay.

 

[Lursa]

LOL is right.

BRB gonna go make a Wikipedia entry and then link it as a primary source, herpaderp.

P.S. Those also have 5 stars, BTW.

P.P.S. Which also has 5 stars.

I have no idea what any of that means.

But you go ahead and continue to struggle to defend your singularly flexible definitions of pretty much everything in life, lol.

Toddle off now and do it.

 

[Peter King]

Lie.

Nope, truth, you know, what you keep denying.

Lie again. I wish you people would have the civility to refrain from dehumanizing slurs, but no, us anti-abortion folks don't do that. That's all you guys.

Unlike pro-lifers I neither dehumanize or use slurs. And yes, pro-lifers do dehumanize women every time they open up their mouths in worship of zygotes.

 

[Scrabaholic]

I have no idea what any of that means.

But you go ahead and continue to struggle to defend your singularly flexible definitions of pretty much everything in life, lol.

Toddle off now and do it.

Some people attack valid words/acronyms when they have no argument to make regarding the debate topic.

 

[JayDubya]

I have no idea what any of that means.

I don't believe it's possible you don't understand why crowdsourced internet sites that any schmuck can edit or add to are not valid as authentic primary sources of information.

I know you're at least pretending not to understand it.

But that's a deliberate act of intellectual dishonesty. You're doing it entirely in bad faith in an effort to irritate others. Since the jig is up and you do this routinely, I don't know why this activity - blatantly against site rules - is still fun to you, but it must be because you keep doing it.

Regardless, your continued lack of rebuttal on all fronts is once again noted.

 

[JayDubya]

Some people attack valid words/acronyms when they have no argument to make regarding the debate topic.

That's true, you pro-aborts do attack valid word use and play semantic games all the time.

 

[Lursa]

I don't believe it's possible you don't understand why crowdsourced internet sites that any schmuck can edit or add to are not valid as authentic primary sources of information.

I know you're at least pretending not to understand it.

But that's a deliberate act of intellectual dishonesty. You're doing it entirely in bad faith in an effort to irritate others. Since the jig is up and you do this routinely, I don't know why this activity - blatantly against site rules - is still fun to you, but it must be because you keep doing it.

Regardless, your continued lack of rebuttal on all fronts is once again noted.

Once again, the post is my rebuttal..and will always be, everytime you post your nonsense about the acronym being a bigotted slur.

That you dont accept it is just continued evidence of your singularly flexible use of the English language. No wonder that what you post receives no serious consideration or affects change in any way.

 

[D_NATURED]

I have refined my views by debating this topic online for many years.

That said, at no point in my life have I ever supported the horror that is legal elective abortion. I have abandoned religions and political parties but that general political viewpoint has been a constant.

The horror? In your imagination maybe.

 

[JayDubya]

The horror? In your imagination maybe.

Innocent human beings killed in cold blood with no repercussions such that the killer is free to kill again and again?

Yup. No question about it.

 

[D_NATURED]

Innocent human beings killed in cold blood with no repercussions such that the killer is free to kill again and again?

Yup. No question about it.

I guess there's no questions if you stick your fingers in your ears and scream "la la la la la la...". Innocence is a judgment of intent and fetuses have no intentions. They are a product of sex and do not deserve any more consideration than the intentions of the woman within whom they exist. They are not individuals, they do not think the way we do and when their existence is a physical threat to the woman they inhabit and feed off of, they don't care. If you choose to call that "innocent" then that explains a lot about conservative "thought".

I realize that you'd love to believe things that support your position that women's lives don't matter but you're wrong. Women are the best and ONLY ones with any right to decide who is born or not. The repercussions you speak of are THEIRS to consider and to live with.