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Seriously - Why Do You Care?[W:716]

Re: Seriously - Why Do You Care?

reason10 said:
Why do you hate babies?
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reason10 said:
A liberal accusing a conservative of not learning anything?

Kind of like a hospital janitor critiquing an open heart surgery.
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reason10 said:
I might as well address these idiotic points one by one, seeing has how IGNORANCE has somehow become fashionable.

Perhaps you should ask yourself why EVERY state has its own Family Law statutes. If after a day of thinking about it without drooling all over your keyboard (which is something every liberal does sooner or later) I'll 'splain it to you in as simple language as I can. (And that's always a challenge-keeping it simple enough for a liberal.)

Why would I care if someone I never met was raped or murdered?

Tell me again what that BABY did to deserve the death penalty.



How about if she just murdered her boss? It would likewise keep her career from messing up. Oh, I get it. You think her boss is a human being but you don't think a BABY is a human being, Adolf. Got ya.



Are you directly threatened by someone being shot down in the street? Are you threatened by a woman ten miles from you getting raped and murdered? HOW ABOUT if a doctor were to shoot up a total stranger with saline solution and that person be allowed to wither and die in agony for a whole day? I guess that wouldn't bother a monster like you either.


A concept most liberals either are unaware of or fight tooth and nail: It's called COMMON DECENCY.


I don't. My stance is justified by the fact that America is NOT Nazi Germany, so your ideology has LOST the argument.
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Having never come across your posts at DP prior to this thread I'll just say this, your posting style quickly leads one to not feel any need to reply to what you write.
 
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"Seriously - Why Do You Care?"

Because ending abortion saves lives.
 
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fmw said:
"Seriously - Why Do You Care?"

Because ending abortion saves lives.
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See posted quoted below.



Dragonfly said:
Here's an interesting statistic:



Facts on Induced Abortion Worldwide

If you want to prevent abortions, don't outlaw abortion, what you need to do is promote better education, better and more comprehensive Sex Education, better and more effective means of birth control, better and more effect family planning techniques, more accessible birth control, less negative stigma about sex in general, and less judgment of what others do.

Pro-life should be pro birth control, not anti-abortion.

Pro-life should be pro sex-education, not abstinence only.

Side note: abstinence is fine, the problem is abstinence only. Emphasis on the word only. <-- important note
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Dragonfly said:
This is what I've been posting for years now:

http://www.abort73.com/PDF/5waystopreventabortion.pdf <-- please click
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Bullet points are simple.

1) making abortion illegal doesn't "end abortions"
 
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Crovax said:
Why do you care if some guy half way across the globe kills 6 million people of the same ethnicity/religion?
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Well, that guy could come after you next, but a woman having an abortion could not possibly abort you. Is that simple enough for you?
 
Re: Seriously - Why Do You Care?

Dragonfly said:
What's the driving force behind your position on this?
Why do you personally feel the need to justify your stance?
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Because contrary to popular opinion I believe that unborn babies are actually babies and that killing them for any reason is murder.

I no more condone the murder of unborn children than you'd condone the murder of born children for any of the reasons you've given.
 
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Dragonfly said:
See posted quoted below.
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Fine but that isn't what I said. I said ENDING abortion saves lives. I didn't say a word about legality.
 
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reason10 said:
I might as well address these idiotic points one by one, seeing has how IGNORANCE has somehow become fashionable.
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Yes and we have your posts as proof of that. Here is a clue: if you have no rational intelligent arguments using labels of liberal, etc. only demonstrates ignorance.
 
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reason10 said:
Here's an original idea: If a doctor performs an abortion for ANY reason other than rape, incest or saving the life of the mother, how about he loses his license to practice forever?
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Thanks for demonstrating hypocrisy on top of everything else you have shown so far.
 
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fmw said:
"Seriously - Why Do You Care?"

Because ending abortion saves lives.
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Actually it does not. You may wish to champion the reduction of the number of unwanted pregnancies.
 
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Dragonfly said:
Why do you care what other people do regarding their sex lives and procreational practices?

Why do you care one way or the other if somebody you've never met or known has an abortion or not?

Why do you care if a drug addicted prostitute aborts an unwanted pregnancy?

Why do you care if a female CEO making a high six-figure salary aborts an unwanted pregnancy for no other reason than she doesn't want a baby messing up her career?

Why do you care? What's it to you? Why is what other people do such a concern for you?
Are you directly threatened by it? Are you directly effected by it?

What's the driving force behind your position on this?
Why do you personally feel the need to justify your stance?
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Why is this in abortion?

If it was 'only' addressing abortion, I can tell you why for many people.

They personify the unborn (to an extreme during many of the developmental stages IMO) and believe that it's murder, the unjustified (in their opinion) killing of a potential child. It is against their religious and or moral beliefs.

And as such, they do see it as their business, since they believe it's murdering a kid.

Others believe that women should be punished for 'opening their legs' and should just accept the kid as that punishment. It's sad, but that is how it sounds when they write about women have to 'take their consequences!"
 
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soot said:
Because contrary to popular opinion I believe that unborn babies are actually babies and that killing them for any reason is murder.
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yes and some people believe in the tooth fairy, neither of which is a valid reason to impose one's beliefs onto others.
 
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Dragonfly said:
1) making abortion illegal doesn't "end abortions"
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making rape illegal didnt end rape, so we that means we shouldnt have rape laws, correct?
 
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prometeus said:
Actually it does not. You may wish to champion the reduction of the number of unwanted pregnancies.
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And how does it not? I'm all for reducing unwanted pregnancies. Abortion causes a death. If an unwanted pregnancy goes to full term a life is saved and a couple wanting an adoptable child is happy. A little common sense would do you some good.
 
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Crovax said:
making rape illegal didnt end rape, so we that means we shouldnt rape rape laws, correct?
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****ing brilliant. Now can you just as well reason that the number of rapes has remained the same, decreased or increased?
 
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Crovax said:
making rape illegal didnt end rape, so we that means we shouldnt rape rape laws, correct?
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Legalizing it does make fewer criminals.
 
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prometeus said:
****ing brilliant. Now can you just as well reason that the number of rapes has remained the same, decreased or increased?
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decreased of course just as if abortion was made illegal the number abortions would decrease, no one is claiming that it will stop all abortions
 
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fmw said:
And how does it not?
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Exmples abound about places where abortion was or is illegal and the number of abortions is not changed.

I'm all for reducing unwanted pregnancies.
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It is the only proven method that reduces the number of abortions.

Abortion causes a death.
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Of a fetus. Why is fetal life significant to you?

If an unwanted pregnancy goes to full term a life is saved and a couple wanting an adoptable child is happy.
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That is naive at best. Have you looked at the situation, the real situation of adoption, foster care and unwanted children?

A little common sense would do you some good.
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Reality has to acknowledged first.
 
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Crovax said:
decreased of course just as if abortion was made illegal the number abortions would decrease, no one is claiming that it will stop all abortions
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Bravo, you have just proven that one one size does not fit all.
 
Re: Seriously - Why Do You Care?

Crovax said:
legalize everything and no more criminals, utopian society
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It will be fun for the strong and quick at the draw. ;)
 
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prometeus said:
Exmples abound about places where abortion was or is illegal and the number of abortions is not changed.

It is the only proven method that reduces the number of abortions.

Of a fetus. Why is fetal life significant to you?

That is naive at best. Have you looked at the situation, the real situation of adoption, foster care and unwanted children?

Reality has to acknowledged first.
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No point in spending any more time on this.
 
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I don't care. What people do to themselves, how they choose to live their lives, who they choose to love, is none of my business.
 
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prometeus said:
yes and some people believe in the tooth fairy, neither of which is a valid reason to impose one's beliefs onto others.
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Yet you seem perfectly comfortable imposing your beliefs on an unborn life.

No matter.

I'm not trying to change any minds.

I'm just going to keep pushing for what I think is right.

Maybe I'll win, more likely I'll lose, but I'm not going to just roll over on something this important and accept the status quo.
 
Re: Seriously - Why Do You Care?

soot said:
Because contrary to popular opinion I believe that unborn babies are actually babies and that killing them for any reason is murder.

I no more condone the murder of unborn children than you'd condone the murder of born children for any of the reasons you've given.
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That's fine, but you do realize others have different "beliefs".

I'd rather that every child be planned for, loved, and wanted. I'd prefer that no pregnancies be unplanned or certainly unwanted.

I want every child to be cared for, educated, fed, and nurtured by loving parents, in nurturing environments.

I don't believe that aborting a 10 week old fetus is equal to putting a bullet into the brain of a 2 month old baby.

In many cases/circumstances, I believe the world/country is far better off without millions of unwanted children.

The road to preventing abortions does not start and stop with making abortions illegal.

If you want to prevent abortions, you must go about it in a different manner.
Start with education, and birth control.
 
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soot said:
Yet you seem perfectly comfortable imposing your beliefs on an unborn life.
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You seem perfectly comfortable imposing your beliefs on all women, when you are not a woman.
 
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