Fathers rights on abortion

HowardBThiname said:

But, does a fetus not fit the scientific definition of "parasite?"

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Objectively, no. Same species.

Where is the rule that states a parasite cannot be of the same species?

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It's a textbook biological definition. Parasitism is a type of symbiosis; symbiosis is the interaction between two or more organisms of different species.

Calling a human a literal parasite to another human is retarded.

nota bene said:

I agree that if there is a reliable birth control option for men, they should employ it. This doesn't mean, however, that I as a woman would necessarily trust it.

And according to the Guttmacher Institute, basically half of unwanted pregnancies are the result of haphazard or no birth control--meaning that if any thinking is done prior to sex, it's at the best too trusting and at the most generous delusional.

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For the very reason you mentioned, long term birth control methods are the best. It takes guesswork out.

Planned Parenthood educates their clients about BOTH parties needing to use birth control. I think that is an overwhelmingly good idea. Either party that does not wish to be a parent should use birth control. It is funny, your "too trusting" comment essentially pushing birth control into the woman's court. It should be used by both parties.

JayDubya said:

Calling a human a literal parasite to another human is retarded.

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Retarded? Way to admit you can't show that a fetus acts in an exact manner to the definition of parasite.

Now, that's retarded.

HowardBThiname said:

Retarded? Way to admit you can't show that a fetus acts in an exact manner to the definition of parasite.

Now, that's retarded.

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The rest of the post went into detail and answered your question.

You ignored that and only quoted and responded to one line.


This demonstrates that it wasn't even a serious question to begin with; you are simply posting hateful things in bad faith to irritate others.

The scientific information is still there, however, for anyone willing or capable of learning.

JayDubya said:

The rest of the post went into detail and answered your question.

You ignored that and only quoted and responded to one line.


This demonstrates that it wasn't even a serious question to begin with; you are simply posting hateful things in bad faith to irritate others.

The scientific information is still there, however, for anyone willing or capable of learning.

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I dismissed your attempt to qualify parasite by citing the same species, because it's irrelevant to the way the fetus survives, which is identical to that of a parasite.

Don't accuse me of not being scientific when you're the one using the term "retarded."

That indicates that you'd rather cast aspersions on the arguments of those you can not counter by using vulgar terminology. Many consider use of the word, "retarded" to be hateful and out of line.

Whether or not parasitism is typically of different species, a human fetus behaves in just such a manner.

And, because it does, it is dependent upon a woman for its nourishment. In the taking of that nourishment, the woman's body is at risk, sometimes more so than others.

HowardBThiname said:

which is identical to that of a parasite

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By definition, you are wrong.

Don't accuse me of not being scientific when you're the one using the term "retarded."

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To refer to the comparison between mammalian offspring-parent relationships and parasitism? Yeah, that comparison is incredibly stupid and demonstrably ignorant of scientific fact.

Many consider use of the word, "retarded" to be hateful and out of line.

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Feel free to ask me if I give a ****.

JayDubya said:

By definition, you are wrong.



To refer to the comparison between mammalian offspring-parent relationships and parasitism? Yeah, that comparison is incredibly stupid and demonstrably ignorant of scientific fact.



Feel free to ask me if I give a ****.

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A rose by any other name. If a fetus develops and survives as do other examples of parasites, you won't be able to hide that fact by trying to deflect through twisting scientific terminology to suit your individual ideas.

I posted the definition of "parasite" and it matches the development of a fetus. Species aside.

HowardBThiname said:

I posted the definition of "parasite" and it matches the development of a fetus. Species aside.

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Parasite is a scientific term; you read Webster's Dictionary and think you understand a scientific concept when you clearly don't.

"Species aside" would mean you don't know what a parasite is. Which is impossible since it has already been established in this thread. So again, you are clearly just saying this nonsense in bad faith.

nota bene said:

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And according to the Guttmacher Institute, basically half of unwanted pregnancies are the result of haphazard or no birth control--....

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Your info about unwanted pregnancies needs to be updated.

65 percent ( that's over two-thirds ) of US women of child bearing years use artificial birth control both correctly and consistently.

Even when birth control is used correctly and consistently about 5 percent become pregnant per year.

In this article there is a 2010 chart.
In 2010 62 percent of women of women used birth control consistently.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr060.pdf

sangha said:

I accept your surrender

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I am actually being quite serious... your argument is ridiculous. I have clearly pointed out why. How fun.

Your reasons for this folly are for enjoyment, no doubt, but that only illustrates the ridiculousness more...

year2late said:

For the very reason you mentioned, long term birth control methods are the best. It takes guesswork out.

Planned Parenthood educates their clients about BOTH parties needing to use birth control. I think that is an overwhelmingly good idea. Either party that does not wish to be a parent should use birth control. It is funny, your "too trusting" comment essentially pushing birth control into the woman's court. It should be used by both parties.

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Oh, I agree that both parties should use birth control. But as the person who could become pregnant, I always, always took care of myself.