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Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12, 85, 357]

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Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

I don't see how the pro-choice side could elicit more violence and vandalism from its followers than has been exhibited by the pro-lifers who have bombed clinics and murdered a doctor in attendance at his church.

Agreed. Additionally, I'd like to know what kind of "assault" was inflicted on this pro-life protester, other than a sign allegedly being grabbed out of her hand and being yelled at. The story seems rather lacking in such details to me.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Agreed. Additionally, I'd like to know what kind of "assault" was inflicted on this pro-life protester, other than a sign allegedly being grabbed out of her hand and being yelled at. The story seems rather lacking in such details to me.

But you weren't curious enough to read the link (which describes the assault) or to Google further, were you? If you were genuinely interested, you could have done either. There are pics of the scratches the prof left on the 16-year old's arms. :lol:
 
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Agreed. Additionally, I'd like to know what kind of "assault" was inflicted on this pro-life protester, other than a sign allegedly being grabbed out of her hand and being yelled at. The story seems rather lacking in such details to me.

It was the kid who initiated the assault.

That's why the abortion banners use these kids. Teens have less impulse control and are prone to violence.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

But you weren't curious enough to read the link (which describes the assault) or to Google further, were you? If you were genuinely interested, you could have done either. There are pics of the scratches the prof left on the 16-year old's arms. :lol:

Yes, that was a mistake on my part. I corrected it a few minutes ago by reading the story. I still don't consider a few scratches to be an "assault." Compared to the violent MURDERS of abortion providers by so-called "pro-lifers," it doesn't even come close, as far as I'M concerned anyway.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

The law determines what constitutes an assault. Kid has scratches; that's assault.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

The law determines what constitutes an assault. Kid has scratches; that's assault.

Not if the injuries were inflicted by someone defending themselves from a criminal
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Stop trying to inflame the discussion, Sangha.

The 16-year old protestor is not a criminal. You know this. Stop it please.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Stop trying to inflame the discussion, Sangha.

The 16-year old protestor is not a criminal. You know this. Stop it please.

That is your opinion. My opinion is different.

Surprised?
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Not at all. Not the first time you've twisted facts to suit a rhetorical purpose. The 16-year old hasn't been charged with any crime, much less been convicted, but please do go on calling her a "criminal." Really enhances your credibility.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Not at all. Not the first time you've twisted facts to suit a rhetorical purpose. The 16-year old hasn't been charged with any crime, much less been convicted

George Zimmerman was charged but he hadn't committed any crime. Obama has not been charged with anything but that hasn't stopped the right from claiming that he's a criminal.

And I've never seen you complain when the abortion banners called women who had abortions "murderers". Your concern about false claims seems to be one-sided. Really enhances your credibility
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

George Zimmerman was charged but he hadn't committed any crime. Obama has not been charged with anything but that hasn't stopped the right from claiming that he's a criminal.

And I've never seen you complain when the abortion banners called women who had abortions "murderers". Your concern about false claims seems to be one-sided. Really enhances your credibility

When caught, launch a personal attack, eh?

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with Zimmerman or with what other DP posters have said or what I have posted about what they've said.

Is there some reason you're so intent on derailing this thread? Is there some reason you're calling a 16-year old a criminal?

Oh, never mind. Just keep embarrassing yourself. :2wave:
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Is there some reason you're calling a 16-year old a criminal?

Yes

Because I believe this entire group is just a gang of thugs who were intent on causing problems
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Hoist on her own petard. Want to bet this professor has liberally used her right to protest on college campus many times? Also, chances are good she's done her own share of offensive sloganing and signage. Assault charges are no joke and she's on the hook for them, just as she would scream bloody murder if the shoe were on the other foot and her attacker had balked at the charges.

So who's running the alleged 'war on women' now?

Exactly! Why in the hell would a state university have something as ridiculous as "feminist studies"?

Try selling somebody 25 cents worth of "feminist studies" to anyone in the real world. You know, the world where people actually have to earn a living.

You tax dollars at work, being used at the discretion and direction of academia dominated by progressives / liberals. You expected the money to be spent in a sensible way? :rolf:

It was the kid who initiated the assault.

That's why the abortion banners use these kids. Teens have less impulse control and are prone to violence.

I don't see any substantiation for either of those from the article in the OP. I miss something? Or do you have another, non-posted source to substantiate this?
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

From The College Fix:

SANTA BARBARA – A department of feminist studies professor has been accused of going berserk after coming across a campus prolife demonstration that used extremely graphic displays, leading a small mob of students to chant “tear down the sign” before grabbing one of the signs, storming off with it, then allegedly engaging in an altercation with a 16-year-old prolife protestor who had followed the educator to retrieve it. Feminist Studies Professor Accused of Assaulting Teenage Prolife Demonstrator

According to the article, some UCSB students are upset that "groups [of protestors] are threatening the well-being of students, yet nothing is being done. We should not feel unsafe on our own campus. These acts of shaming and violence are beyond unacceptable, and in no case have these groups warned the student body before showing such images on campus.”

I am very much opposed to the display of graphic images--they're gratuitous, and those happening to walk past the photo/poster displays may find them shocking. Children definitely shouldn't be exposed to them. Perhaps some compromise can be reached, one through which the protestors don't put these horrific images on public display. But I don't believe for even a second that the complaining UCSB students feel unsafe on their own campus. What hanky-clutching crap.

As for the prof, she appears to be hoist by her own irrational behavior. :3oops:

Sigh. Another right wing source used as a basis for a post. Could you possibly find a source that doesn't advertise itself as right wing for these kinds of stories?
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

I tend to side with the preciousness of life over the monetary expenditures.

BTW: I'm highly in favor of some sort of birth control for those who have no personal or moral responsibility. [ones that prevent the joining of the sperm and egg]

And I'm more for quality of life over quantity.

God doesnt need you racking up the numbers for him...that fanaticism is a holdover from the days of high infant mortality and low $$ in the church coffers.

When you have 'converted' all the existing souls, then why not worry about the unborn? You'll be more successful and maybe you'll *actually* help someone. Those dedicated to true Christianity do many good works and save many souls....when did you do good works for someone else last?
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Are these people related to Westboro Baptist?
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Stop trying to inflame the discussion, Sangha.

The 16-year old protestor is not a criminal. You know this. Stop it please.

Did the 16 yr old lay hands on the prof first?
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Sigh. Another right wing source used as a basis for a post. Could you possibly find a source that doesn't advertise itself as right wing for these kinds of stories?

The College Fix was the primary source. :roll:

Of course, other news outlets have picked up on it.

UCSB Professor Accused of Assaulting Anti-Abortion Activist The Santa Barbara Independent

UCSB Professor Young | www.independentsentinel.com

So "interesting" how so many have strong opinions without reading the OP or the link or checking anything out for themselves. :roll:
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Here is the video

 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Did the 16 yr old lay hands on the prof first?

She stalked the prof and then trapped her in an elevator. The prof was forced to defend herself
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

She stalked the prof and then trapped her in an elevator. The prof was forced to defend herself

Thanks.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Here is the video



Interesting. For one thing, at no time in the video does the prof have possession of the sign. That, and the fact that no one has been charged with theft makes it obvious that there was no theft which is contrary to the teen abortion banning thugs accusations

What the video does show is the thugs stalking the prof and then entering a school building (possible trespass?) Then the little hoodlum prevented the professor from using the elevator or leaving it by using her body and foot to keep the elevator door from closing and to keep the professor from leaving the elevator.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Interesting. For one thing, at no time in the video does the prof have possession of the sign. That, and the fact that no one has been charged with theft makes it obvious that there was no theft which is contrary to the teen abortion banning thugs accusations

What the video does show is the thugs stalking the prof and then entering a school building (possible trespass?) Then the little hoodlum prevented the professor from using the elevator or leaving it by using her body and foot to keep the elevator door from closing and to keep the professor from leaving the elevator.

Yes, it looks like at no time did the professor have possession of the sign.

I have to wonder, are non students allowed in the buildings?

Yes, it does look like stalking. She should have just said she felt threatened and shot them - I mean since they were cornered in a elevator and all.

Never quite saw where she was scratched, though.
 
Re: Fem. Studies Prof Accused of Assaulting Teen Prolife Demonstrator[W:12]

Yes, that was a mistake on my part. I corrected it a few minutes ago by reading the story. I still don't consider a few scratches to be an "assault." Compared to the violent MURDERS of abortion providers by so-called "pro-lifers," it doesn't even come close, as far as I'M concerned anyway.

The professor was wrong, IMO and legally, I think any unwanted physical contact is considered assault. However, the 16 year old should not have kept trying to get on the elevator. She should have backed off and waited for the cops.

BTW, the professor is definitely guilty of theft of the sign.
 
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