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Does a fetus have more rights than a woman? [W:773]

Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

nota bene said:
If all this is true, how do you justify interefing with nature?

How does abortion on demand fit into nature, as defined by science, just operating?
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We interfere with nature every time we fight a natural disease or overcome a naturally caused disability, whether by Christian Science, western medicine, or Chinese medicine, or what-have-you. We interfere with nature when children with born harelips and elephantiasis have operations to make those things go away. And don't think that induced abortion is uniquely human - at one site in Africa, female chimpanzees have been seen to eat the same abortifacient leaves that the local women use for abortions, apparently to space their pregnancies conveniently. The chimps and humans do this by intentional means, unlike lower species who do not have as much intelligence - thus, while other species simply have miscarriages or store inconvenient zygotes until the situation is convenient, the intelligent ones use their natural intelligence to control their fates.
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

mac said:
Lie.

Proven several times. I have absolutely no respect for the opinions of one such as you.
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And you know what I think of your opinions.
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

mac said:
If human life has value, than all human life has value regardless of age, race, sex, or any other discriminating criteria. If human life has no value than the life of the mother is equally valueless.
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So you'd have a tough time choosing between the life of a fetus and a developed human being? :lamo
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

waas said:
So you'd have a tough time choosing between the life of a fetus and a developed human being? :lamo
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Nope.

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Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

waas said:
So you'd have a tough time choosing between the life of a fetus and a developed human being? :lamo
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I don't really understand your smiley, which trivializes the discussion.

But in answer to the OP's question, a fetus doesn't hav eequal rights. It doesn't have the right to life.
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

mac said:
Nope.

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You're playing at this "equality" shtick. In fact, you even said that the fetus' life has as much value as it's mother's. So how is it that you'd have no issues choosing? Would you just let the mother die, or something?

Really now...
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

nota bene said:
I don't really understand your smiley, which trivializes the discussion.

But in answer to the OP's question, a fetus doesn't hav eequal rights. It doesn't have the right to life.
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It has rights, but they don't supersede those of it's mother.

As for the smiley? mac's stance on abortion is just amusing.
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

waas said:
You're playing at this "equality" shtick. In fact, you even said that the fetus' life has as much value as it's mother's. So how is it that you'd have no issues choosing? Would you just let the mother die, or something?

Really now...
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I've also clearly explained the concept of self defense and how it applies here. Please try to keep up, specially if you are going to attempt to be insulting or condescending.
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

mac said:
Lie.

Proven several times. I have absolutely no respect for the opinions of one such as you.
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I have no respect for people who paraphrase what other people say in a distorted fashion or take quotes out of context in order to slander and libel them.
 
Aberration said:
Of course I have proof. It's in the definition of people. A human being.
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Define human being. Define "person." There are many definitions. Mine does not include anyone lacking a human body biologically independent of the human bodies of others. You have your own body, I have mine, and a pregnant woman has hers, and we are all capable of living without being biologically attached to one another. No embryo or previable fetus has even that capacity, let alone that actual biological independence. It lives only as a body part of the pregnant woman.
 
Re: Does a fetus have more rights than a woman?

choiceone said:
I have no respect for people who paraphrase what other people say in a distorted fashion or take quotes out of context in order to slander and libel them.
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I didn't paraphrase anything. It's what you said....
 
The fetus does not have more rights than a woman, because to save the fetus you have to interfere with the life of the women, as such there is an infringement of the woman’s moral autonomy. Is only at the birth, when there are two separate individuals, that there is no longer any conflict between protecting the life of the one and protecting the life of the other.
 
MSPP said:
The fetus does not have more rights than a woman, because to save the fetus you have to interfere with the life of the women, as such there is an infringement of the woman’s moral autonomy. Is only at the birth, when there are two separate individuals, that there is no longer any conflict between protecting the life of the one and protecting the life of the other.
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Why? Because you say so?
 
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