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"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record Low

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So Sayeth Gallup

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This won't sit well with the pro-choice.
 
cpwill said:
So Sayeth Gallup
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Interesting. I would have thought it time it would have gone up, not down. Wonder what the reasons are. Wonder if it has to do with pro-life people having more kids and raising them with that belief, while less pro-choice people are doing the same....
 
Labels don't accurately describe people's true position, in my opinion.

From my experience the vast majority of folks out there are pro-"somewhere in between."
 
Ehhh oh well :shrug:

Whats your point?
 
Doesn't matter, once established, rights are seldom taken away.
 
The 41% of Americans who identify themselves as "pro-choice" is down from 47% last July and is one point below the previous record low. Fifty percent now call themselves "pro-life." But a majority still says abortion should be legal.
Read more at GALLUP.com.

From gallup as of this am
 
lpast said:
The 41% of Americans who identify themselves as "pro-choice" is down from 47% last July and is one point below the previous record low. Fifty percent now call themselves "pro-life." But a majority still says abortion should be legal.
Read more at GALLUP.com.

From gallup as of this am
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"and a majority would limit abortion to cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother,"
 
lpast said:
The 41% of Americans who identify themselves as "pro-choice" is down from 47% last July and is one point below the previous record low. Fifty percent now call themselves "pro-life." But a majority still says abortion should be legal.
Read more at GALLUP.com.

From gallup as of this am
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mac said:
"and a majority would limit abortion to cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother,"
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Like I said...majority are pro-"somewhere in the middle," like myself.
 
You do realize just because someone is pro-life (for themselves) meaning they would never have an abortion, they are not about to support a government that want to insert itself in the gynecologists office.

You're little anti-privacy site puts a dumb spin on the numbers.
 
Here is the actual poll itself: "Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41%.

At the bottom of this link you can click the "View methodology, full question results, and trend data" link to download that to your PC in .pdf.

The question asked was: "With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life?"

There was no presentation of what pro-choice is or pro-life is, just a question to pick "either"/"or".

Abortion is such a politicized issue that most people have heard these two ideological terms, but few really know what they are.

People have come to associate these two terms with the left and the right on the standard political spectrum.

Many people will choose one or the other based on what or who they identify without really knowing what each term means. And many will choose one or the other simply because that's how the question was phrased and they want to be a part of the graphed outcome, with only 10% declining to say one way or the other.

The poll also doesn't state how many people were called who refused to participate in a poll where the question was phrased as a dualistic polemic.

Thus these kind of poorly presented polls regarding labels are simply meaningless. If people knew what each term truly meant, the great majority would simply say neither. Especially true if they were given a number of additional truly existent choices.

By looking at the question results for "Do you think abortions should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances?" we can get a somewhat better picture of the pro-choice/pro-life breakdown.

25% said "legal under any circumstances" -- these are your pro-choicers.
20% said "illegal in all circumstaces" -- these are your pro-lifers.
52% said "legal under certain circumstances" -- the vast majority of these are your neithers, centrists on the abortion spectrum, with a small minority moderately pro-choice or moderately pro-life.

But if the questions were phrased correctly with respect to accuracy, we'd clearly see a great majority of people in the centrist "neither" category.

The value in the poll graph presented in the OP is the implied increase in the percentage of people who realize and accept the scientific reality that a human begins to live at conception and who find killing a human at any stage to be generally unethical and situationally morally wrong.
 
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Navy Pride said:
Thank God for the Patriot Act.........It has kept us safe since 9/11/01...
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NP its infringes on your rights!? Where is your outspoken advocacy to get rid of this right infringing bill!?
 
Navy Pride said:
CP I was just going to post this..............God love the silent majority in this country.............
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Silent majority? Seriously? :doh
Every driven down the highways throughout the US? See all those "Pro life" billboards? Or what about go to an evangelical or catholic church... Or how about the guy that goes in a church and murders an abortion doctor. Or how about abortion clinic bombings. Or all the lawsuits....
Cmon Navy, dont be naive and ignorant....
 
Ontologuy said:
25% said "legal under any circumstances" -- these are your pro-choicers.
20% said "illegal in all circumstaces" -- these are your pro-lifers.
52% said "legal under certain circumstances" -- the vast majority of these are your neithers, centrists on the abortion spectrum, with a small minority moderately pro-choice or moderately pro-life.
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The problem with this is that we don't know what circumstances that 52% feel it should be legal under. Is it only rape, incest and life/health of the woman? Is it under any circumstances up to a certain gestational age then only for life of the woman after that?

At any rate, public opinion should not matter. The rights of minorities cannot be taken away, nor should reproductive rights.
 
lpast said:
The 41% of Americans who identify themselves as "pro-choice" is down from 47% last July and is one point below the previous record low. Fifty percent now call themselves "pro-life." But a majority still says abortion should be legal.
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This is why a poll that doesn't define its terms is useless, except to underline false dichotomies or nomenclatural failures such as this one.

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cpwill said:
So Sayeth Gallup

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Labels don't matter as much as this:

The polling company’s longest-running measure of abortion – under what circumstances abortion should be legal – remains little-changed. Since 1975, most Americans have believed abortion should be legal under some circumstances. In this poll 52 percent of respondents held that position, although the poll does not spell out which circumstances they felt justified abortion.

A recent poll from the Charlotte Lozier Institute found 77 percent of Americans oppose sex-selective abortion. Last December, 79 percent of Americans said they supported restricting abortion to the first trimester, and a majority would limit abortion to cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother, according to a Knights of Columbus/Marist College poll.
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sangha said:
Labels don't matter as much as this:

The polling company’s longest-running measure of abortion – under what circumstances abortion should be legal – remains little-changed. Since 1975, most Americans have believed abortion should be legal under some circumstances. In this poll 52 percent of respondents held that position, although the poll does not spell out which circumstances they felt justified abortion.

A recent poll from the Charlotte Lozier Institute found 77 percent of Americans oppose sex-selective abortion. Last December, 79 percent of Americans said they supported restricting abortion to the first trimester, and a majority would limit abortion to cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother, according to a Knights of Columbus/Marist College poll.
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I find the part I've highlighted in red to be most surprising.

Look at that: 79% of Americans don't support Roe v. Wade and Webster v. Reproductive Health Services that, in effect of medically assisted viability occurring near the end of the second trimester, guarantees abortion on demand up until that point, nearly three full months past this 79%'s first-trimester maximum! :shock:

That's nearly 8 out of 10 people opposed to Roe and Webster!

What's with that?!

Still, that may partially account for why the corresponding poll response here makes sense a bit:http://www.debatepolitics.com/abortion/126741-abortion-and-scotus-viability-stipulation.html.
 
Too high by 41%, but progress just the same.
 
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