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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Can we dispense with the completely irrelevant, off-topic tangents?
    Since when did you become the "decider" of off-topic tangents? Call a Mod if you have a problem...or just don't ****ing read any farther.
    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind
    I dont care whether or not a ZEF is a person. Unless it's in your belly - it's none of your business as to the status of it's future UNLESS you are personally willing to stand fully responsible for it until its adulthood. If you find abortion morally offensive - then don't have one. Stay the hell out of your neighbor's uterus.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Since when did you become the "decider" of off-topic tangents? Call a Mod if you have a problem...or just don't ****ing read any farther.
    I didn't claim any special authority, but I can use my brain to note that this thread isn't about a lot of things.

    For example, this would be a poor place to discuss aardvarks.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    How about we focus on children who actually understand the suffering inflicted upon them??

    Attachment 67125604

    Per the attachment, we can deduce the following:

    In 1998, 1,142 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 1999, 1,394 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 2000, 1,357 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 2001, 1,299 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 2007, 1,759 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 2008, 1,741 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 2009, 1,770 children died from injuries related to child abuse.
    In 2010, 1,825 children died from injuries related to child abuse.

    In total, since 1998, over 19,666 children have died because of child abuse.

    In addition to those deaths, over 3 million children annually are estimated to have been abused by their parents, a guardian, or another adult. That means that since 1973, 117 million children (or more) have been abused.

    Now, most research shows that a fetus in the first trimester (when the vast majority of abortions are performed) has not developed the intricate nerve system required for pain signals to be sent and received, which means a fetus aborted during the first trimester is unaware of the abortion and feels no pain during the abortion.

    On the other hand, children who are victims of child abuse almost always feel pain and sometimes die from the abuse they suffer. Those who don't die are often saddled with a life time of psychological issues that can be extremely hard to overcome.

    Forgive me if I think your anger is a bit misplaced. Children who were birthed suffer everyday in this country from neglect, abuse, and disinterest from their parents. We should be worried about them first and foremost.

    National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp
    Just last week there were numerous reports of ONE MILLION CHILDREN in an area of Africa who are literally dying of starvation and lack of water because of a horrific, ongoing drought that plagues the area.

    That said, when are the hypocrisies going to stop by pro-lifers. If they can't address the issues regarding children who are born and in dire need, why the hell do they want to add to the rooster of children who are suffering?

    Adding up all the children aborted since any given time...is juvenile at best. Let's also add up the mega-millions of people who have been murdered because of political reasons. Or the untold numbers murdered for religious reasons. The list goes on and on.

    Until pro-lifers start legitimately devising ways to take care of Post-natal children who fall prey to many of the issues that you posted...I will forever have closed ears and eyes to their arguments about abortion.

    Thanks for the much needed information to look at very stark realities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind
    I dont care whether or not a ZEF is a person. Unless it's in your belly - it's none of your business as to the status of it's future UNLESS you are personally willing to stand fully responsible for it until its adulthood. If you find abortion morally offensive - then don't have one. Stay the hell out of your neighbor's uterus.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Wow, argument by non-sequitur...

    Children starve in Africa, q.e.d. the abortion debate is irrelevant.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Wow, argument by non-sequitur...

    Children starve in Africa, q.e.d. the abortion debate is irrelevant.
    It isn't irrelevant, it's just hypocritical. Children who were born are suffering every day, but pro-lifers force the issue of abortion above all others. They're fighting for fetuses that never suffer while babies and children currently suffer every day. There is something inherently wrong with that sort of prioritizing.
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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Disagreed.

    It is not only not our responsibility to feed every hungry person in the world, it is wrong for a unit of government to try to do so.

    It is very much so our direct responsibility to prevent and prosecute violent acts like homicide in our own backyard.


    Who says we don't care about child abuse? The reason it doesn't get talked about as much or with as much outrage is that child abuse is illegal, and its perpetrators are prosecuted. There's no outrage at society or government for permitting it... the outrage is rightfully channelled into a justice system and due process in a court of law...

    The far more harmful act of abortion goes unpunished...

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Wow, argument by non-sequitur...

    Children starve in Africa, q.e.d. the abortion debate is irrelevant.
    There are no physical boundaries when it comes to child abuse, abandonment, neglect. The example posted about Africa is just one of many places children are suffering in gross numbers. There are untold numbers of children suffering at this moment - here in the States and around the world.

    The issue of hypocrisy is more paramount than abortion. And hypocrisy is exactly what's going on when pro-lifers to soap box their beliefs about the unborn...and turn their backs on the born. That is by far more criminal than pro-lifers claim about women for who have an abortion.

    Turn your cries of criminal acts toward those who allow the brutality suffered by post-natal children first and foremost...then devise a genuine plan to care for any future born children. Then and only then will pro-lifers ever have an argument worth considering.
    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind
    I dont care whether or not a ZEF is a person. Unless it's in your belly - it's none of your business as to the status of it's future UNLESS you are personally willing to stand fully responsible for it until its adulthood. If you find abortion morally offensive - then don't have one. Stay the hell out of your neighbor's uterus.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I will have to correct my sig because there now have been 54,559,615 abortions performed in this country since 1973. That means that 54,559,615 innocent defenseless babies have been butched in the womb since then. This infanticide has to stop.Abortion is about the worst act one human being can perpeturate against another.



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    No dont be rediculous. Im sure all 54 million of those babies were going to be born by parents who didnt have the money to take care of them or were rape victims or incest. How could think those where pointless murders??? (Sarcasm)

    Seriously this is friking rediculous. Anyone who thinks that out of 54 million a huge number of these were by people who are just to lazy to be parents then your all crazy. This is nothing less then killing a poor inocent baby that did nothing to wrong except be concieved by parents that quite simply couldnt be bothered with it. That is the truth.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    There are no physical boundaries when it comes to child abuse, abandonment, neglect. The example posted about Africa is just one of many places children are suffering in gross numbers. There are untold numbers of children suffering at this moment - here in the States and around the world.

    The issue of hypocrisy is more paramount than abortion. And hypocrisy is exactly what's going on when pro-lifers to soap box their beliefs about the unborn...and turn their backs on the born. That is by far more criminal than pro-lifers claim about women for who have an abortion.

    Turn your cries of criminal acts toward those who allow the brutality suffered by post-natal children first and foremost...then devise a genuine plan to care for any future born children. Then and only then will pro-lifers ever have an argument worth considering.
    Have you lost it? Who in the world are the people going to Africa to help the poor? Who are the people giving money to the charities that help those poor people? Who are the ones who send food over there every holiday? Christians/ pro-lifers. Not that prochoicers dont donate and help out too but they are by and far in the manority.

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    Re: U.S. Abortion Statistics By Year (1973-Current)

    Quote Originally Posted by nathanjames1791 View Post
    Have you lost it? Who in the world are the people going to Africa to help the poor? Who are the people giving money to the charities that help those poor people? Who are the ones who send food over there every holiday? Christians/ pro-lifers. Not that prochoicers dont donate and help out too but they are by and far in the manority.
    NJ...you've sadly missed the point. I expected such a reply from Jay...

    By the way, you want to offer sources on your claim about who donates how much (pro-life vs. pro-choice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind
    I dont care whether or not a ZEF is a person. Unless it's in your belly - it's none of your business as to the status of it's future UNLESS you are personally willing to stand fully responsible for it until its adulthood. If you find abortion morally offensive - then don't have one. Stay the hell out of your neighbor's uterus.

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