New Study – No increase in airborne CO2 since 1850

ptif219 · 11-16-09, 12:26 PM

What it shows is their is no crisis and climate change is not caused by man

Gill · 11-16-09, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Talk

Except the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased, we know that from observations Mauna Loa as well as other sites. Dr. Knorr is not saying that there hasn't been an increase in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, what he is saying is that there has been no change in the fraction that is being absorbed vs. airborne. For example:

1850: 1,000 tons of CO2, 40% is airborne, 400 tons of airborne CO2

Today: 1,000,000 tons of CO2, 40% is airborne, 400,000 tons of airborne CO2

*The numbers aren't correct but they're just used to demonstrate the point

The amount of CO2 to in the atmosphere dramatically increased but the fraction that was airborne stayed the same hence why the the article says:

What he is saying is that the amount of CO2 being absorbed by the ecosystems on Earth has not changed. The oceans and terrestrial system are absorbing the same percentage as they were 150 years ago. One of the main tenets of AGW is that these bodies have or will meet a saturation point where they won't absorb any more, thus causing a runaway amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That is not happening.

Joe1991 · 11-16-09, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassandra

"But Dr Wolfgang Knorr cautioned that the world should still be trying to reduce carbon dioxide emissions as part of any climate change deal decided in Copenhagen next month.

He pointed out that the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is still increasing, even though half is absorbed by the Earth. Also there are fears that the oceans and soil become saturated and are unable to absorb any more CO2 in the future."

Thanks for posting the important part of the article.

Frank Talk · 11-16-09, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gill

What he is saying is that the amount of CO2 being absorbed by the ecosystems on Earth has not changed. The oceans and terrestrial system are absorbing the same percentage as they were 150 years ago. One of the main tenets of AGW is that these bodies have or will meet a saturation point where they won't absorb any more, thus causing a runaway amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That is not happening.

So we agree.

Gill · 11-16-09, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Talk

So we agree.

Great, good to hear that you are skeptical of the global warming theory.

Cassandra · 11-16-09, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gill

What he is saying is that the amount of CO2 being absorbed by the ecosystems on Earth has not changed. The oceans and terrestrial system are absorbing the same percentage as they were 150 years ago. One of the main tenets of AGW is that these bodies have or will meet a saturation point where they won't absorb any more, thus causing a runaway amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That is not happening.

You mean it has not happened yet, but may- as the scientist, himself, notes

Scarecrow Akhbar · 11-16-09, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gill

Not misleading at all... it clearly states that airborne CO2 has not increased since 1850. Does the title state as you claim "no increase in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere?" No it doesn't does it??

The percentage of airborne CO2 is NOT increasing as every climate paper is claiming if this paper is correct. Any person not saturated in alarmist Kool-Aid would absolutely believe this paper turns the climate world on it's ear.

Yeah, I find the claim that it hasn't increased to be a bit odd.

ptif219 · 11-16-09, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe1991

Thanks for posting the important part of the article.

Don't look now but Obama is working to scale back the actions taken at Copenhagen.

Scarecrow Akhbar · 11-16-09, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ptif219

Don't look now but Obama is working to scale back the actions taken at Copenhagen.

Is he mad at them for not giving his buds the Olympics?

ptif219 · 11-16-09, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar

Is he mad at them for not giving his buds the Olympics?

No he is trying to find ways to stop spending.

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