Will new evidence render "peak oil" a myth?

The silenced majority · 11-05-09, 07:38 AM

New evidence supports 19th century idea on formation of oil and gas

Their study is scheduled for Nov./Dec. issue of ACS' Energy and Fuels, a bi-monthly publication. Anurag Sharma and colleagues note that the traditional process involves biology: Prehistoric plants died and changed into oil and gas while sandwiched between layers of rock in the hot, high-pressure environment deep below Earth's surface. Some scientists, however, believe that oil and gas originated in other ways, including chemical reactions between carbon dioxide and hydrogen below Earth' surface.

The new study describes a test of that idea, which dates to at least 1877 and famous Russian chemist Dimitri Mendeelev. They combined ingredients for this so-called abiotic synthesis of methane, the main ingredient in natural gas, in a diamond-anvil cell and monitored in-situ the progress of the reaction. The diamond anvils can generate high pressures and temperatures similar to those that occur deep below Earth's surface and allow for in-situ optical spectroscopy at the extreme environments. The results 'strongly suggest' that some methane could form strictly from chemical reactions in a variety of chemical environments. This study further highlights the role of reaction pathways and fluid immiscibility in the extent of hydrocarbon formation at extreme conditions simulating deep subsurface.

Science Centric | News | New evidence supports 19th century idea on formation of oil and gas

bowerbird · 11-05-09, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The silenced majority

New evidence supports 19th century idea on formation of oil and gas

Their study is scheduled for Nov./Dec. issue of ACS' Energy and Fuels, a bi-monthly publication. Anurag Sharma and colleagues note that the traditional process involves biology: Prehistoric plants died and changed into oil and gas while sandwiched between layers of rock in the hot, high-pressure environment deep below Earth's surface. Some scientists, however, believe that oil and gas originated in other ways, including chemical reactions between carbon dioxide and hydrogen below Earth' surface.

The new study describes a test of that idea, which dates to at least 1877 and famous Russian chemist Dimitri Mendeelev. They combined ingredients for this so-called abiotic synthesis of methane, the main ingredient in natural gas, in a diamond-anvil cell and monitored in-situ the progress of the reaction. The diamond anvils can generate high pressures and temperatures similar to those that occur deep below Earth's surface and allow for in-situ optical spectroscopy at the extreme environments. The results 'strongly suggest' that some methane could form strictly from chemical reactions in a variety of chemical environments. This study further highlights the role of reaction pathways and fluid immiscibility in the extent of hydrocarbon formation at extreme conditions simulating deep subsurface.

Science Centric | News | New evidence supports 19th century idea on formation of oil and gas

Even if we found basins of oil across the world it continues to be a finite resource. Actually one of the next big fuels could be

Ice!!

Ice on fire: The next fossil fuel - environment - 24 June 2009 - New Scientist

The silenced majority · 11-05-09, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bowerbird

Even if we found basins of oil across the world it continues to be a finite resource.

How can it be a finite resource when this study indicates that the Earth reproduces it?

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Actually one of the next big fuels could be

Ice!!

Ice on fire: The next fossil fuel - environment - 24 June 2009 - New Scientist

Interesting

bowerbird · 11-05-09, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The silenced majority

How can it be a finite resource when this study indicates that the Earth reproduces it?

Interesting

Earth may produce some oil but it is not an everlasting supply - I honestly doubt there would be that much produced from methane.

tubaplayer · 11-05-09, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The silenced majority

How can it be a finite resource when this study indicates that the Earth reproduces it?

You plainly have no idea of the meaning of FINITE!

We are on space ship earth! There are only so many atoms of carbon and of hydrogen here. Unless your abiotic theory can explain how, once we burn them, they can be returned to the core of the earth to begin again this wondrous recreation of hydrocarbons then it is obviously errant nonsense!

The silenced majority · 11-05-09, 03:35 PM

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You plainly have no idea of the meaning of FINITE!

We are on space ship earth! There are only so many atoms of carbon and of hydrogen here. Unless your abiotic theory can explain how, once we burn them, they can be returned to the core of the earth to begin again this wondrous recreation of hydrocarbons then it is obviously errant nonsense!

Apparently you haven't read the article.

Who's sock-puppet are you?

The silenced majority · 11-05-09, 03:46 PM

The scientific research leads to the notion that the earth naturally re-produces oil & gas.

We do not know yet how much it reproduces as to how much we use as of yet.

It certainly looks like its going to throw a monkey-wrench in to the Enviro-Marxist's claim that we are hopelessly going to run out of oil & natural gas over the next century.

tubaplayer · 11-05-09, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The silenced majority

Apparently you haven't read the article.

Who's sock-puppet are you?

I am nobody's sock puppet. I don't need to read the article, I have read all the crap being spouted about abiotic oil for several years. You still don't get the idea of FINITE do you?

Watch

YouTube- The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8)

this video and all the other parts, and then watch them again and you may begin to understand.

tubaplayer · 11-05-09, 03:56 PM

Name me ONE - just ONE oilfield producing a million gallons a day of abiotic oil!

You can't - you know you can't - because THERE AREN'T ANY!!!!

Do some research and reading!

The silenced majority · 11-05-09, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tubaplayer

I am nobody's sock puppet. I don't need to read the article, I have read all the crap being spouted about abiotic oil for several years. You still don't get the idea of FINITE do you?

Watch YouTube- The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8) this video and all the other parts, and then watch them again and you may begin to understand.

Those numbers are totally over-inflated. The world's population is actually slowing.

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The silenced majority Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Seen: 12-30-09 06:40 AM Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 1,129 Thanked 1,262 Times in 727 Posts Lean: Conservative Gender:	Will new evidence render "peak oil" a myth? New evidence supports 19th century idea on formation of oil and gas Their study is scheduled for Nov./Dec. issue of ACS' Energy and Fuels, a bi-monthly publication. Anurag Sharma and colleagues note that the traditional process involves biology: Prehistoric plants died and changed into oil and gas while sandwiched between layers of rock in the hot, high-pressure environment deep below Earth's surface. Some scientists, however, believe that oil and gas originated in other ways, including chemical reactions between carbon dioxide and hydrogen below Earth' surface. The new study describes a test of that idea, which dates to at least 1877 and famous Russian chemist Dimitri Mendeelev. They combined ingredients for this so-called abiotic synthesis of methane, the main ingredient in natural gas, in a diamond-anvil cell and monitored in-situ the progress of the reaction. The diamond anvils can generate high pressures and temperatures similar to those that occur deep below Earth's surface and allow for in-situ optical spectroscopy at the extreme environments. The results 'strongly suggest' that some methane could form strictly from chemical reactions in a variety of chemical environments. This study further highlights the role of reaction pathways and fluid immiscibility in the extent of hydrocarbon formation at extreme conditions simulating deep subsurface. Science Centric \| News \| New evidence supports 19th century idea on formation of oil and gas

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The silenced majority Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Last Seen: 12-30-09 06:40 AM Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 1,129 Thanked 1,262 Times in 727 Posts Lean: Conservative Gender:	Re: Will new evidence render "peak oil" a myth? The scientific research leads to the notion that the earth naturally re-produces oil & gas. We do not know yet how much it reproduces as to how much we use as of yet. It certainly looks like its going to throw a monkey-wrench in to the Enviro-Marxist's claim that we are hopelessly going to run out of oil & natural gas over the next century.

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tubaplayer User Join Date: Nov 2009 Last Seen: 11-06-09 01:55 AM Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Gender:	Re: Will new evidence render "peak oil" a myth? Name me ONE - just ONE oilfield producing a million gallons a day of abiotic oil! You can't - you know you can't - because THERE AREN'T ANY!!!! Do some research and reading!

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