Gill

You are hilarious !!!

Next time actually read a link and you will (maybe) stop looking so foolish.

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There is so much unforced variability in the system which we can’t predict — the chaotic component of the climate system — which is not predictable beyond two weeks, even theoretically.
Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS

Middleground

Are we talking abou the same paper? The one written by Craig Loehle?

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Guess what I don't care and don't believe dogs gas causes global warming. After all it is 40 degrees here in Florida today. --ptif219

Gill

Of course. Now read where it was published.

I'll be waiting.

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There is so much unforced variability in the system which we can’t predict — the chaotic component of the climate system — which is not predictable beyond two weeks, even theoretically.
Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS

Middleground

Who does Loehle work for, and who published the paper?
Also, who peer-reviewed it?

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Guess what I don't care and don't believe dogs gas causes global warming. After all it is 40 degrees here in Florida today. --ptif219

Gill

I don't know of anyone that doesn't believe in climate change. The climate has always changed and always will, despite man's best efforts.

As far as data sets, there are basically four of them, NASA Giss Temp, UAH, RSS, and Hadley. Giss always shows warming, while the others show a basically flat to lowering trend in recent years. GissTemp has so many siting and correction adjustment problems that it is basically worthless as a measure of global climate. Hadley refuses to provide anyone their raw data or their adjustment procedures, which makes their set appear suspicious. UAH and RSS are both satellite derived temperature sets that measure temperature throughout the world including oceans. The primary problem with their data is that it started in 1979, so it has a very short history.

Many think that global temperature means little and believe we should be looking at ocean heat content. They have a very valid point.

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There is so much unforced variability in the system which we can’t predict — the chaotic component of the climate system — which is not predictable beyond two weeks, even theoretically.
Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS

Gill

He works for NCASI.

It was published by Energy and Environment.

Peer reviewers are always anonymous.

Any more questions?? All of this was in the link I provided.

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There is so much unforced variability in the system which we can’t predict — the chaotic component of the climate system — which is not predictable beyond two weeks, even theoretically.
Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS

Middleground

Craig Loehle is the principal scientist with the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement, which was "established in 1943 by the pulp and paper industry to provide technical assistance for the industry’s goal of lowering the ecological impact of its spent pulping liquors." [1]. He is a Heartland Institute "global warming expert".[2]

Craig Loehle - SourceWatch

Heartland Institute:
Heartland Institute - SourceWatch

I went to Energy and Environment, and it's not a reputable scientific organization. It's not even somethign that specializes in climate.

Is it any wonder your thread was ignored???

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Guess what I don't care and don't believe dogs gas causes global warming. After all it is 40 degrees here in Florida today. --ptif219

Gill

You are a trip. There is no god but the god of global warming and woe to anyone that blasphemies her.....

Your info on Loehle is correct, as I already posted. You have nothing new there. He is an expert in mathematics and statistical analysis.

You comment on E&E is poor hyperbole with no basis in fact. You ignored my thread because it dares to expose the man behind the curtain....

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There is so much unforced variability in the system which we can’t predict — the chaotic component of the climate system — which is not predictable beyond two weeks, even theoretically.
Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS

Middleground

All you have to do is cite stuff that reputable, that's all I ask. If you can't deliver, don't blame me.

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Guess what I don't care and don't believe dogs gas causes global warming. After all it is 40 degrees here in Florida today. --ptif219

Gill

Nothing will be "reputable" in your eyes that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions. I posted proof from Real Climate to support my claims and you simply ignored it and never replied.

Good bye.

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There is so much unforced variability in the system which we can’t predict — the chaotic component of the climate system — which is not predictable beyond two weeks, even theoretically.
Gavin Schmidt, NASA GISS