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What happened to global warming?

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9 October 2009 16:22 UK
By Paul Hudson
Climate correspondent, BBC News

This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures.
And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise.
So what on Earth is going on?
Climate change sceptics, who passionately and consistently argue that man's influence on our climate is overstated, say they saw it coming.
They argue that there are natural cycles, over which we have no control, that dictate how warm the planet is. But what is the evidence for this?
During the last few decades of the 20th Century, our planet did warm quickly.
Sceptics argue that the warming we observed was down to the energy from the Sun increasing. After all 98% of the Earth's warmth comes from the Sun.
But research conducted two years ago, and published by the Royal Society, seemed to rule out solar influences.
The scientists' main approach was simple: to look at solar output and cosmic ray intensity over the last 30-40 years, and compare those trends with the graph for global average surface temperature.
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So has been overstated as the right has been saying? I think so.
 
Pretty soon all we'll hear is how we have to act to stop global cooling.
 
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What I want an answer to is, "What happened to the hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica?"
 
MyOwnDrum said:
What I want an answer to is, "What happened to the hole in the ozone layer over Antarctica?"
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That problem has actually been solved, for the most part. There was a successful international effort in the 1970s and 1980s to ban chlorfluorocarbons (a class of chemicals that harms the ozone), and as a result the ozone hole is getting smaller and smaller now.
 
Kandahar said:
That problem has actually been solved, for the most part. There was a successful international effort in the 1970s and 1980s to ban chlorfluorocarbons (a class of chemicals that harms the ozone), and as a result the ozone hole is getting smaller and smaller now.
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What about freon in refrigerators and air conditioners? How are they handling that?
 
MyOwnDrum said:
What about freon in refrigerators and air conditioners? How are they handling that?
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They don't use chlorofluorocarbons in freon anymore; it's illegal in most countries. They use hydro-chlorofluorocarbons instead, which aren't as harmful to the ozone.
 
It's truly amazing. The IPCC, Al Gore and all the others who continually try to sell the world on man-made global warming conveniently (and very early in the game) changed the name of the beast to man-made climate change when the actual climate made reasonable minds question their predictions. These people, motivated by their desire for control and political power, predicted that we would already by this time be beginning to see dire consequences. When shown to be so very wrong, perhaps their methods, and the climate models that they pulled out of their asses, should be questioned... along with their motivations.
 
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They've tried global cooling, global dimming, and global warming... What power-grabbing excuse will our government overlords try next?

Perhaps...

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Kandahar said:
They don't use chlorofluorocarbons in freon anymore; it's illegal in most countries. They use hydro-chlorofluorocarbons instead, which aren't as harmful to the ozone.
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Interesting... Thanks for the update
 
Simply put, short-term variability occurs in any system and does not effect the longer-term trend which is that the climate is warming.

Simply because the hottest year was a decade ago, the overall trend is not nullified.

Actually, according to NASA, the worlds hottest year was 1934 (new data), with 2005 second. Its true that most of the world's hottest years have been in the past fifteen years anyway.

Case closed imo.
 
Yossarian said:
Simply put, short-term variability occurs in any system and does not effect the longer-term trend which is that the climate is warming.

Simply because the hottest year was a decade ago, the overall trend is not nullified.

Actually, according to NASA, the worlds hottest year was 1934 (new data), with 2005 second. Its true that most of the world's hottest years have been in the past fifteen years anyway.

Case closed imo.
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Yea, cased closed. Scientific theory proven.
 
I'm surprise the Enviro-Nazis have pretty much left this thread alone.
 
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Strucky said:
I'm surprise the Enviro-Nazis have pretty much left this thread alone.
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Cute, but following science's best evidence no matter the outcome is the opposite of being Nazi-like. If anything, it might be a better fit for the dogmatic deniers of of GW, no matter the mountains of scientific evidence.

Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth

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Kandahar said:
That problem has actually been solved, for the most part. There was a successful international effort in the 1970s and 1980s to ban chlorfluorocarbons (a class of chemicals that harms the ozone), and as a result the ozone hole is getting smaller and smaller now.
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I hear signing a treaty will clear up problems like global warming. Just kill a tree and a miracle occurs.
 
Joe1991 said:
Cute, but following science's best evidence no matter the outcome is the opposite of being Nazi-like. If anything, it might be a better fit for the dogmatic deniers of of GW, no matter the mountains of scientific evidence.

Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth

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Still posting bogus graphs to prove that MAN is at fault for "global warming"?
 
The end goal is world Socialism/Marxism/Communism with an elite small group at the top making all the decisions for everyone they allow to continue to be the useless eaters they see each of you as being.
Just look at the people Obama has appointed into positions with no vetting process that would risk their exposure as complete radicals with some of the wildest ideas you have ever heard. Among them are those who believe 100% in euthanasia, eugenics, animals rights to the point that the rats in your cellar have the right to an attorney in court to fight your ability to kill them, the School Safety Czar looks at one of NAMBLA's founders as his personal hero.
Global Warming has nothing to do with the major taxes they want to further their agenda to break down society as much as they can on the way to total control.
And now you can say this guy is a conspiracy nut, and if you do you are the blind one following the dictates of a person with no tangible accomplishments in his life past street corner organizing, and he has no experience doing anything.He is as has been proven over and over again is a very accomplished liar. Truth is he's better than the last liar in chief Clinton.
In the words of Rahm Emanuel : "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
If they don't have a crisis they will invent one to promote the ability to pass what they want, and it's true with the economy, and every other thing you can think of they are pushing along with "Global Warming".
 
There are paranoid conspiracy nuts in every party. What I don't get is why paranoid conspiracy nuts are so popular and have their own shows in the Republican Party. Is it the anti-government thing?
 
Strucky said:
I'm surprise the Enviro-Nazis have pretty much left this thread alone.
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they have to recieve their gameplan from Gore which I understand is still using snail mail


oh yeah, I thought the Debate was over you silly wabbits :lol:
 
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