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A trend that needs changing

I was browsing through my favorite movie site and saw a post about a new Documentary about the environment. I don't claim to be any expert on the matter, but I do feel we are putting progress and financial gain before environmental responsibility. One person posted this comment on the film and I feel there was some truthful insight in his comment.

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We Never Learn, We Are Allowing The Greedy To Lead Us To Our Own Destruction!
Agent Smith from the Matrix said it best:

"I'd like to share a revelation that I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure."

Humans have never learn how to live within the system that is already in any area, we always end up tearing it apart and converting it to what we want it to be. But we always forget that it was the beauty that was there in the beginning that drew us there in the first place. We are doomed to repeat the past and destroy our only home Earth!

Very good film! 5/5

Remember what happened to Easter Island and the people who no longer exit from there!!!

12 Million people hold 80% of the world's wealth, out of a population of over 6 Billion world wide, everyone else is poor!


Here are some more comments from other viewers, not necessarily posting because I agree or not. More so for their POV's.

Grandalmeida says...
Good Photos..
Thatīs the big deal..

Well, bla bla bla human virus bla bla bla, we will kill the earth.. if a meteorite hit the earth we would all die whatīs the deal?.. thatīs life and nature cicle.. I think this is a lesson for the power countries that donīt give FU.. for the planet, China Japan EUA etc etc.. power is destruction, money for ones is hunger for others.. thatīs the equilibrium.

It donīt matter if you do something for the planet because Power eventually will destruct everything you do.. thatīs the real deal. Because Power leaders simply donīt care, money is money..


cindyoh wrote ....
Same Old/new Propaganda, Wrong Premise To Begin With.
From a bible-believing viewpoint (highly unpopular and laughed at these days), I know this earth is NOT my home, anyway, it's all temporary. I know deterioration is SUPPOSED to happen. The narrator is spewing theory, not proven fact, it's the same old PBS/History/Disney channel/Al Gore song and dance; what else is new with "science falsely so called", I Timothy 6:20? Most people swallow these docudramas without a thought. Ah yes, Wise Human, you CAN turn this whole mess around. What a hoot. Like King Solomon said, Ecclesiastes 1:9, "there is no new thing under the sun."

Having said the above, on a personal level, I'm careful what I do. I don't drive a car anymore, how many spoiled Americans are ready to do that, or to get rid of their toys?? I'm frugal. I don't think we need any "improvements" in technology. I'm no tree hugger but do my best not to harm the environment on a personal level. But I know it's all gonna go anyway someday and I'm ready to go, ha-ha. I Corinthians 15:1-4.


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Let's Be Honest With Ourselves
It was an ok movie with good points but all the bleeding heart comments COME ON.Do you people want me to actually believe you care. Every time one of these docs come out everyone acts like it's everyone's fault but theirs. You talk like your not part of the problem when you know you are.I guess I'm the only with the guts enough to say I'm part of the problem maybe I should look for alternatives to certain aspects of my lifestyle.I drive an SUV(not good). I have way to many electronic gadgets(not good) but I always put everything on power strips and the only thing that has power to it is my fridge. I lowered my electric bill because of it. I love everybody really I do so let's be honest and not dog out everyone else but the person making the comment cause your far from perfect!

akakage23 writes...
Very Sad But True 5/5
that's amazing where the narrator said " in one hour the sun gives the earth of the same amount of energy. is that consumed by ALL humanity in one year. as long as the earth exist the suns energy is inextinguishable. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS STOP DRILLING THE EARTH AND START LOOKING INTO THE SKY.

guschamber writes..
I'm totally thrown off guard when i saw how many millions of people live in unthinkable environments without fresh water,no electricity and here we are the lucky percent of the population that have practically every essential need to live,can't be thankful enough but still i wished there was a miracle that would change it all,for all humans to live in equal..this is one documentary that every human should watch especially those who hunger for wealth and power,this is whut happens when money takes over the earth..not good

passam writes...
OUTSTANDING!!
Exceptionally well made.This is no hoax or propaganda,it is a wake up call to reality. I am from West Africa and can personally relate to much of the chilling figures given. Excellent plot and story line,unique in every way. Nice transition from history of life through chilling destruction by humanity to an unexpected climatic ending that lights a ray of hope that its not too late to save ourselves.The time to rely on government intervention alone is history, its our time to believe, its our time to love,live and let live.There was a time all we did was receive, now its time for us to give back to the Earth. Standing hand in hand together, let us reach out and save our own. Can you hear nature's call on us not to save it but to save OURSELVES!?!? If we are able to put men on the moon, why can't we save our HOME?!?! 10/10 in all respects.

thatkidcam writes...
Fantastic
I love films like such. The truth is, humans are a species of their own & the only species that destroys the Earth. My bet is the Earth is just going to get rid of us, & then refurbish itself. Humans believe we are the ultimate species on Earth, even better than Earth & sometimes even God (Not implying everyone believes in a God.), but I think our lessons is that we either need to change that attitude or we're just going to push the Earth so far that it wipes us out & just starts over without us. Either way, what's right is right & we have really no say. I think we'll be extinct soon.

Fat_Wang writes...
Agent Smith, being a program should respond to any data input as it is designed to.
Agent Smith was broken.
Programs do not have epiphanies or revelations.
The Agent Smith program simply failed.
As simple machine "intelligence" it was not capable of understanding what humanity is, nor did it grasp the "nature" of nature.
Nature abhors a vacuum.
Humanity does indeed consume every resource within it's grasp.
This is what causes humanity to move to another area, and when there are no more unspoiled areas humankind relocates or is relocated to another world.
Changes in the mitochondria change the "human" to become what-ever it is which will best exploit the new location, it may be quite different from man.
You see, man uses his limited intellect to build transport to the next location to be exploited, ships to sail the seas, wagons to cross a continent, craft to travel to nearby worlds.
Man does indeed exploit to failure his environment. Then seed stock is moved by some unknown agency to the next world,if man cannot bridge the distance himself, while what remains here is harvested by those creatures which farm the animal called man.
Throughout the cycle, harvested is chemical energy by nano devices which transfer that energy to other devices or organisms which are harvested themselves.
When the host finally expires, spirit is harvested, worms harvest what is left,water returns to it's level, and minerals return to the earth, to be moved by terraformers setting up the next pasture.
Terraformers? Well, that would help explain out of place artifacts.
Did I say pasture?
Well yes, I did.
Once established there we are given instructions by "gods" which say, "subdue this world, I have given it unto you'r hand."
we are not a virus.
Man is livestock.
Wealth like IQ is not the problem, if everyone were wealthy or had high IQ the system would fail too soon due to over consumption.
Can we say "moo?"
I thought we could.
Or I could be as wrong as a post turtle.

pro311031 writes...
Why Waste A Whole Planet When We Have No Where Else To Live Right Now!
We have one planet to live on at the moment, if you want to live in a trash can go right ahead, just leave the rest of us out if it! We do not want to walk around with a mask on 24/7.
How many of you live in a trash dump?
How many of you wants to prove that Global warming does not exit by purposely destroying our home that only one we have?
How many of you want to put toxic items in your home to prove that they will not effect you, the air around you, the items in your home, and the ground around you?
Who will be the first to try?
I bet not one!
Why wait till the damage can not be reversed and then cry, how could we have let this happen!


Anyway, I just feel that there is a lot of truth that should not be ignored in the film. We as a whole tend to ignore problems when they are "out of sight - out of mind" I feel mankind needs to seriously think about changing its ways for the better. What say you???
(sorry for the long post, but I feel it's important.)


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Re: A trend that needs changing

Uhm okay...

I think we let ourselves get scared stupid by people and emotionalism trumps brains ending up with stupid decisions made.
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Uhm okay...

I think we let ourselves get scared stupid by people and emotionalism trumps brains ending up with stupid decisions made.
So, you do, or don't believe we are affecting these global changes? And do you, or do you not feel change is needed? If so, what do you feel needs changed in order of importance? Thanks for reading the post.
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So, you do, or don't believe we are affecting these global changes? And do you, or do you not feel change is needed? If so, what do you feel needs changed in order of importance? Thanks for reading the post.
No, not really.

Changes need be made for local area pollution issues if there is reason too... like dumping raw sewage... burning toxic materials...

People need PERSPECTIVE yes? Yes. I.E. The earth is REALLY FREAKING BIG, the Atmosphere is REALLY FREAKING BIG. Our minute, MINUTE contributions are NOT "tipping" anything, anywhere.

The earth warms, the earth cools. CO2 rises, CO2 lowers. Has been going on for billions of YEARS.

Why do people think they are the cause? Seriously.
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Uhm okay...

I think we let ourselves get scared stupid by people and emotionalism trumps brains ending up with stupid decisions made.
But emotionalism is what makes us humans without it we allow order and conformity dictate how we are to be.
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The Earth has one purpose, to serve us. Period. Full Stop. End of message.

How can I assert this? Because only humans have the concept of "purpose." Things have value only because we assign them value.

Truly, if we use the thing, and the earth is a thing, up in a few thousand years, then we've made far better use of it than a billion years of mindless animal and plant life.

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But emotionalism is what makes us humans without it we allow order and conformity dictate how we are to be.
Emotionalism tends to lead to idiocy. Like... all those warning labels on things... because juries get emotional and give stupid huge rewards because some moron gave him self 3rd degree burns on his chest... doesn't matter he was trying to Iron his shirt while wearing it.. look at the pain he suffered!!! There was no warning LABEL!
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Emotionalism tends to lead to idiocy. Like... all those warning labels on things... because juries get emotional and give stupid huge rewards because some moron gave him self 3rd degree burns on his chest... doesn't matter he was trying to Iron his shirt while wearing it.. look at the pain he suffered!!! There was no warning LABEL!
Warning Labels are there because it is logical to remind morons to not cut their penises off with ban saws
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Personally I think we're allowing the agenda of the far-extreme Greens to impede progress and prosperity far too much.

The reason most of the world is poor is a lack of free-market capitalism.


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The Earth has one purpose, to serve us. Period. Full Stop. End of message.

How can I assert this? Because only humans have the concept of "purpose." Things have value only because we assign them value.

Truly, if we use the thing, and the earth is a thing, up in a few thousand years, then we've made far better use of it than a billion years of mindless animal and plant life.

Sorry to the Greeenies, this is mere truth.
What about the more advanced humans who come after us? Their ability to utilize the Earth's resources has been limited by our short-sightedness and rampant disrespect for the natural equilibrium of our environment. Here I speak not of global warming (it's happening, whose fault it is I don't care, geoengineering will make it a nonissue at some point) but of toxic waste, mass-market farming, wasteful farming practices and the like.
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