hazlnut

Once people start installing panels on their homes--the modifications to their existing breaker box and meter, etc. There's a hole new industry around the corner. In California, you can get a tax rebate.

I look forward to the day when a home owner can go down to Home Depot and purchase a DIY kit.

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Harry Guerrilla

Its popular to say, but its not true.

We get most of our oil from Canada. Coal is mostly domestic.

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UtahBill

The estimates I hear are that of all the imported oil, only a portion of it is from our enemies. Canada and Mexico are not our enemies.
The LEAST we should do is stop buying oil from the Middle East, and from Venezuela....

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UtahBill

In the construction phase, a lot. Once built, not so many, but manpower to KW/HR produced ratio, probably more than a nuke plant.... it takes a lot of solar and wind to replace one large nuke plant, and these devices are exposed to the weather.....making maintenance more likely...

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MrVicchio

Great, can you ya know... figure out how to do that?

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UtahBill

Conserving will help....
only a very small percent of electricity generated, less than 2 currently, I think, is from burning oil, so using less electricity isn't much of an answer.
BUT, dropping the speed limit on freeways to 65 would make a big dent. If I can get a 10% improvement in gas mileage in the wife's Impala, then any other similar or smaller car can probably do the same. It is how you drive that makes a big difference, along with carpooling, etc.
We did it once, we can do it again.
Oil used for other than transportation, not sure we can do much about that.
But certainly we can use a lot less oil by driving smarter...
The fact that we don't hear our govt leaders asking us to conserve tells me that they have no clues, and probably no intent, to do anything else about it.

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MrVicchio

I meant figure out how to seperate "Middle East Oil" out of the global oil pool so we are not purchasing it.

Good luck!

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Harry Guerrilla

Thats hard to do because oil is traded by companies and not purchased directly by the government.

Mid east oil compromises something like 3% of what we get from what I've seen.

Venezuela oil is a bit bigger but again it is hard to say we shouldn't buy it anymore when it is more efficient than anything else available.

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UtahBill

http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/index.php?display_article=vn355energyfactsed
Amount of U.S. oil consumption that comes from the Middle East: 2 mbd -- 12 percent, only three percent from Iraq and Kuwait. The rest of our imported oil comes from places like Canada, Venezuela, Mexico, Nigeria, Algeria, Ecuador, and England.
Surely we can reduce consumption a lousy 12% ?

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Oftencold

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