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Old 05-11-08, 11:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Around here most farmers use cow manure for fertizlizer and their products taste great. Just another reason to eat some of the red meat from cows to keep them ********.
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Old 05-12-08, 01:54 PM   #52 (permalink)
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The population has quadrupled since 1900, will be 7 billion by 2012, and should double about every 50 years according to projections:

LiveScience.com :


This should be a downer on us. We will use and use until there are shortages of all of the basic things we need, like oil and water, and won't change our rate of consumption until we are forced to by lack of things, like money or resources. This is information we could learn from, and we could make some changes before the fact, but we won't.
I dont buy the long term projections we have a precident to believe as countries become developed their population growth slows down.technology investment is at the forefront of dealing with these problems im confident throught GM and alternative energy possibilites we can handle it.
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Old 05-13-08, 06:02 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I dont buy the long term projections we have a precident to believe as countries become developed their population growth slows down.technology investment is at the forefront of dealing with these problems im confident throught GM and alternative energy possibilites we can handle it.
Well, the United States has been considered a developed nation for a long time, right? But the population still grows very fast here:


1900 - 76,212,168
1910 - 92,228,496
1920 - 106,021,537
1930 - 123,202,624
1940 - 132,164,569
1950 - 151,325,798
1960 - 179,323,175
1970 - 203,302,031
1980 - 226,542,199
1990 - 248,709,873
2000 - 281,421,906

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From 1900 to 1950, the population doubled, in our developed nation. From 1950 to today, it more than doubled again, in our even more developed nation (current population is about 304,000,000).
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Well, the United States has been considered a developed nation for a long time, right? But the population still grows very fast here:


1900 - 76,212,168
1910 - 92,228,496
1920 - 106,021,537
1930 - 123,202,624
1940 - 132,164,569
1950 - 151,325,798
1960 - 179,323,175
1970 - 203,302,031
1980 - 226,542,199
1990 - 248,709,873
2000 - 281,421,906

US Population Through History



From 1900 to 1950, the population doubled, in our developed nation. From 1950 to today, it more than doubled again, in our even more developed nation (current population is about 304,000,000).
You have to take out the increase from the immigant population though. From what I've seen, our birth rate is fairly stable.
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Baloney....

It's all in your head. If you had two chicken breasts or two apples in front of you, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference by tasting them.

What's wrong with a corn based diet?? I grew up eating a corn product every day along with animals fed by corn.
absolutely incorrect.

This is evidence that you have not actually engaged in an organic diet.

Organic and Biodynamic agriculture are simply the best way to produce food.
It is the healthiest and the least damaging to the environment and to people's immune systems.
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You have to take out the increase from the immigant population though. From what I've seen, our birth rate is fairly stable.
The US fertility rate has shown some variation. We'd expect that given women in developed nations have tended to postpone child-bearing. Also we have to control for specific variables (e.g. income inequality tends to impact on adolescent pregnancy rates).

Has the post-war rate exceeded the replacement rate of 2.1?
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You have to take out the increase from the immigant population though. From what I've seen, our birth rate is fairly stable.
The immigrant's babies are part of the population.

As far as a stable birth rate, I guess you're right mathematically, because the birth rate doubled here over the last fifty or so years, and it doubled the fifty years before that. I'm really not sure what you mean, though.
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pfah. The environment wants YUO dead!

78% of all deaths are natural .. right?

Whats more natural than a tree?

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Re: Organic farming environmental disaster!

Organic foods are best left to an individual basis. Some like it, that's cool. But you can't aggregate it over the whole, you can't produce the same volume you can through other means. If everything were to switch over to "organic" methods, there would be a lot less food to go around. You would see gross inflation of food prices and rapid decrease in supply.
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..but they are grown in dirt and poo...

I don't want to eat dirt and poo ...


Have a factory farmed cheeseburger instead.



nom nom nom!

no dirt or poo in that eh?
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