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Evidence of the Blue Wall, More Police Misconduct

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Here's a link to an LA Times story . . .

Orange County D.A. says there is evidence of deputies' 'code of silence' - Los Angeles Times

Here we see the Sheriff demanded the district attorney's resignation, but then when proven wrong, she launches an investigation, she doesn't resign. Investigation ?? How about prosecution ??

Why the demand for resignation ? A pre-emptive threatening strike in defense of the Blue Wall ? Superiors and co-workers covering for and mitigating the consequences of misconduct, is the Blue Wall.
 
]Rackauckas said that Schroeder's statements about the "code of silence" referred only to the assault case and was not a comment on the entire agency. The statement seemed to quell some of the anger Hutchens expressed earlier with the district attorney.

"I was upset because when the statement was made, it seemed to refer to a pervasive code of silence in law enforcement in general, and nothing could be further from the truth," she said Tuesday.

Orange County D.A. says there is evidence of deputies' 'code of silence' - Los Angeles Times
 
Bodhisattva said:
]Rackauckas said that Schroeder's statements about the "code of silence" referred only to the assault case and was not a comment on the entire agency. The statement seemed to quell some of the anger Hutchens expressed earlier with the district attorney.
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He sure did. I wonder if thats because he has to continue to work with all the other judges and all their cop buddies in the area ? ? ? Whats your guess ?

Want to start the namecalling right away ?
 
Still curious as to whether or not there is a Blue Wall Bodi ?

Police Beating Caught On Video - 5 Cops Fired In Alabama Video


Although the 5 were fired, at 5:55 Ashley mentions that senior officers are still under investigation for what they knew and when they knew it.

Five Officers, and not one of them arrested any of the others for the assault being committed in front of his face.

Five isolated incidents that all happened to answer the same call or Systemic ? Whats your guess ?
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
Your post demonstrates a marked lack of understanding of human dynamics. Further, these five were involved in THE SAME INCIDENT.
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Right, they were. And all five cops thought putting a whip down on an unconscious crash survivor was appropriate.

Isolated to one bad cop ? Or a systemic problem ?

I don't fail to understand the unfortunate human dynamic here one bit. Blue Wall.
 
Voidwar said:
Right, they were. And all five cops thought putting a whip down on an unconscious crash survivor was appropriate.

Isolated to one bad cop ? Or a systemic problem ?

I don't fail to understand the unfortunate human dynamic here one bit. Blue Wall.
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Five officers does not make a blue wall. It makes a group of bullies who operated on the same level and made a point of hanging out together on the job. Not uncommon, whether you are talking about an elementary school or a police force.
 
What you fail to understand, Voidwar, perhaps because it doesn't fit your paradigm, is that there isn't a blue wall in this case because the DISTRICT ATTORNEY - Tony Rackaukas - is speaking out. They're all on the same team, cops and prosecutors. If the blue wall existed, Tony Rackaukas (good guy, btw, I know him in real life), would not be saying shi'ite. And Rackaukas made a point of saying that this conspiracy of silence INVOLVED ONLY THE OFFICERS, and not the agencies themselves.

The five were not speaking because they'd have incriminated THEMSELVES and opened themselves up to prosecution.

This isn't hard to understand, dude. Unless you wish to be willfully obtuse.
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
Five officers does not make a blue wall. It makes a group of bullies who operated on the same level and made a point of hanging out together on the job. Not uncommon, whether you are talking about an elementary school or a police force.
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And the smart well trained officers on the entire rest of the Sheriff's department had no idea they were bullies ? This level of callous disregard is not achieved overnight, nor in a vacuum, and as the story also relates, the 5's superior officers are still under investigation for what they knew about the video and when they knew it.
 
Voidwar said:
And the smart well trained officers on the entire rest of the Sheriff's department had no idea they were bullies ? This level of callous disregard is not achieved overnight, nor in a vacuum, and as the story also relates, the 5's superior officers are still under investigation for what they knew about the video and when they knew it.
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Yeah, but we have this thing in the U.S. known as "innocent until proven guilty." You can know that a person you work with probably shouldn't be on the street, but how, exactly, do you prove it until they do something that crosses the line? And, the people who are willing to act in these ways usually don't want to have much to do with the more "straight and narrow" employees. They self-segregate.

So, you might have a suspicion that someone you work with is a badge-heavy thug, but suspicion does not equal the ability to get someone off the street. Especially for peers.

Just like suspecting that the guy down the hall isn't pulling his weight in processing forms, or whatever it is that you do all day, Void. It's easy to speculate about what people are or aren't doing...it's hard to prove it.
 
Voidwar said:
He sure did. I wonder if thats because he has to continue to work with all the other judges and all their cop buddies in the area ? ? ? Whats your guess ?

Want to start the namecalling right away ?
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Oh yeah, the code of silence extends to anyone who doesn't agree with you about the code of silence. :rofl:rofl:rofl
 
Voidwar said:
Right, they were. And all five cops thought putting a whip down on an unconscious crash survivor was appropriate.

Isolated to one bad cop ? Or a systemic problem ?

I don't fail to understand the unfortunate human dynamic here one bit. Blue Wall.
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No, it's not systematic and you can't prove it is. The system handled these officers. You just don't like how they did it.
 
Voidwar said:
And the smart well trained officers on the entire rest of the Sheriff's department had no idea they were bullies ? This level of callous disregard is not achieved overnight, nor in a vacuum, and as the story also relates, the 5's superior officers are still under investigation for what they knew about the video and when they knew it.
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What evidence do you have of their wrong doing prior to this incident? This is more of Voidwar's internet video research analysis.

There are 760 officers on the Birmingham Alabama police department, these five represents .65% of the force. There are 1,460 sword officers on the Orange County Sheriff's Office. These five represent .34% of the force.

Yeah the problem is systematic there alright.
 
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Catz Part Deux said:
Yeah, but we have this thing in the U.S. known as "innocent until proven guilty."
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Stop, here is your mistake. Voidwar only believes this extends to non-law enforcement types. He advocates the murder of law enforcement officers for doing their duty. He also advocates murder as a remedy for trespassing. You need to understand his point of view if you're going to try and reason with him.
 
Lerxst said:
No, it's not systematic and you can't prove it is. The system handled these officers. You just don't like how they did it.
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The system created these officers. I do not like why they did it.
 
Lerxst said:
What evidence do you have of their wrong doing prior to this incident?
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I find it very , very hard to credit that 5 model officers all spontaneously decided today was the day to assault an unconscious man, in front of other officers, as their first act of police misconduct. As I stated earlier . . .

Voidwar said:
This level of callous disregard is not achieved overnight, nor in a vacuum, and as the story also relates, the 5's superior officers are still under investigation.
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Lerxst said:
He also advocates murder as a remedy for trespassing.
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Strawman garbage. Quote me saying that, or retract it, or get reported again for lying about me in your smear campaign.
 
Voidwar said:
Strawman garbage. Quote me saying that, or retract it, or get reported again for lying about me in your smear campaign.
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Report away son. I've got the thread in my back pocket. You absolutely know which one it was. Let's dredge it up. I think it will be fun!
 
Lerxst said:
Report away son. I've got the thread in my back pocket. You absolutely know which one it was. Let's dredge it up. I think it will be fun!
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Quote me saying murder or retract your lie. Dredge away. Have fun.

If the next post doesn't have it, or your retraction, then we know what we need to.
 
Voidwar said:
Strawman garbage. Quote me saying that, or retract it, or get reported again for lying about me in your smear campaign.
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I am not sure about one, but you promote murdering a cop that tries to enforce gun laws.
 
Voidwar said:
Quote me saying murder or retract your lie. Dredge away. Have fun.

If the next post doesn't have it, or your retraction, then we know what we need to.
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Report the post big boy! You're playing semantic now, nothing more. You advocating MURDERING people who trespass. Killing someone without just cause is MURDER. Your idiotic statements in the thread in question back me up on this. Deliberately and illegally killing another human being is murder. That is what you advocated. MURDER MURDER MURDER!

Oh in case you didn't get it...

YOU ADVOCATED MURDER OF COPS AND INNOCENT CIVILIANS!!

Now run along and report me so I can pull up all your ridiculous quotes and embarrass you.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I am not sure about one, but you promote murdering a cop that tries to enforce gun laws.
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He called for the killing of police officers and anyone else who trespassed on private property, which is illegal. He was being a complete loon. I think it was the first time I ever met Mr. Bates. I ended up getting thread banned for calling him names...hehe. But I can log out, grab his quotes, and repost them here. I know exactly where that little treasure trove of Voidwar insanity resides.

;)
 
It's in the archives now so I can actually read it while logged in.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/20269-cops-behaving-badly.html#post545095

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Voidwar said:
You don't think I'm kidding do you ?

Heres a cop aiding and abetting a criminal tresspass. . .

http://http://www.break.com/index/sh...respass2b.html

When the cops won't arrest a tresspasser while they witness it, this citizen feels helpless and powerless. The citizen should have shot both of these tresspassers. If I was on his Jury , he would walk. Sorry fat cop, should have read up on the law you waddle around pretending to enforce.
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Voidwar said:
Donkey 1499 said:
So cops should be murdered because of a couple bad ones? What ever happened to due process and the right to a jury and fair trial?
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Murdered is not the same as killed while illegally trespassing.

DUE PROCESS involves a court order.

Here's another cop who should be deer rifled by the kin of his female vicitim. . .

http://http://my.break.com/media/vie...ntentID=255296
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The bolded parts are just a glimpse into the genius that is Voidwar.

Murder Law & Legal Definition
A person commits the crime of murder if with intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of that person or of another person,or under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life, he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to a person other than himself, and thereby causes the death of another person.
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I know what his justification will be and I stand ready to shove it back down his throat with the law, which he will idiotically say is "wrong" and will say it's a bunch of "code words" so that the police can monopolize the use of force. Hide and watch.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I am not sure about one, but you promote murdering a cop that tries to enforce gun laws.
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Self Defense.

The LAW says "keep and bear", shall not be infringed.

The Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution, is on my side.

Lawful exercise, Lawful self defense.
 
Lerxst said:
Stop, here is your mistake. Voidwar only believes this extends to non-law enforcement types. He advocates the murder of law enforcement officers for doing their duty. He also advocates murder as a remedy for trespassing. You need to understand his point of view if you're going to try and reason with him.
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Frankly, I don't think he's capable of being reasoned with. He's a true believer, a fanatic whose paradigms are set in stone. No amount of evidence will persuade him to adopt a new one. In fact, evidence doesn't even matter to such people.

I'm only interested in countering his misinformation for others who may read the thread, and also, in defending people in a profession that take a lot of flack and rarely get the kudos they deserve for being heroes.
 
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