bhkad

This Murder WASN'T Caused by Exposure to Violent Films

JS Online: ‘Natural Born Killers’ fan charged with strangling girlfriend

It couldn't have been.

Because if it WAS then we might have to finally take a serious look at the possible connection between the ongoing outbreaks of senseless violence in this country and the senseless violence portrayed in the games and films and viewed over and over again by young people as an inadvertent form of self induced brain washing.

This beautiful young woman's life could not have been caused by her boyfriend's repeated viewings of "Natural Born Killers" or else we might have to have a FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM on violent video games and films on any viewable media where young people might administer to themselves an over dose of violent stimulation.

While the connection between violent crimes and violent games and films is studied I hope some possible remedies are also explored.

When will we say, "ENOUGH!!!" and declare a time out while we study this phenomenon?

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CaptainCourtesy

According to the NY Times, 81 people each day are killed by guns (2004 statistics). We need a 5 year moratorium on guns to study this phenomenon and determine if guns are the cause of this.

You've posted this information before, bhkad. It makes no more sense now, than it did then. There is no causaational relationship between media violence and real violence, simply because there are far too many confounding variables that need to be accounted for.

I admire the tenacity of your stance on this, but you are presenting it in an alarmist, non-causationally substantiated way. The logic just isn't there.

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roguenuke

The fact that this kid viewed this movie repeatedly and then killed his girlfriend after a random viewing claiming that he doesn't know why would lead a sensible person to believe that the kid had mental issues prior to viewing the movie the first time, perhaps some OCD and/or addictive personality. However, I believe that this would be something for the professional psychologist(s), that I'm sure he will see, to work out.

Your hypothesis does fail in the fact that most people, including myself, have movies that we enjoy watching repeatedly, to a reasonable extent, both violent and non-violent, and yet most do not imitate scenes from those movies without knowing the reason why we are imitating it.

To clarify a bit, by your logic, if violent movies can brainwash our children then nonviolent movies should be able to do the same thing and young teens and adults who watch family films, romantic comedies, dramas, and/or musicals should randomly break out in moments of song and dance or dramatic displays without realizing why they are doing these things. Personally I've never seen or done either of these, and I have never heard of such an occurrence either. My favorite movie is the very mild Dirty Dancing, yet I have never found myself suddenly running towards my husband wanting him to lift me into the sky or even just asking him to, although it looks like fun. However, my husband and I know one another's dancing abilities, and I am quite sure that I would get hurt if I tried it. I, like many other people, think of the consequences of my decisions before acting on them. Some people may decide that the benefits of certain decisions that others consider risky is worth the consequences, but rarely does a sane person act without at least considering what they are doing.

UtahBill

Just because some people are susceptible to suggestion does not mean that all of us should be denied the "fun and joy" of our favorite depravities. Personally, I despise horror and gore films, but if you can watch that stuff without it affecting you, go for it.....

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shuamort

I was gonna post but roguenuke already beat me to the sentiment. It seems like the people involved were of age and I can't believe that someone would be advocating restrictions for adults of these materials.

independent_thinker2002

It's obvious this guy had issues that could have been triggered by a book or a campfire story. What if he duplicated a murder from the bible? What would you say about that? How about that crazy woman that drowned her five kids? What if it was a Sea World brochure that inspired her?

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disneydude

Maybe he was a fan of Marilyn Manson....or bowling.

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Zyphlin

Ahh, I love when you go on your fascist rants.

75000 deaths a year are linked to alcohol. FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON ALCOHOL!

42000+ people die every year due to automobile accidents. FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON VEHICLES!

3000 toddlers per year are injured or killed by falling TVs. FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON TV'S! THINK OF THE TODDLRES! They'd be SAFE if we'd just BAN THE TV's!

2,000 deaths per year from unncessary surgery! FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON ANY SURGERY NOT 100% NEEDED IMMEDIETLY!

106,000 deaths/year from adverse affects of medication. FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON MEDICATIONS!

79% of Americans are Christians. That means that a large majority of murderers and criminals are also Christian. FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON ORGANIZED RELIGION!

The video game business sold 12.5 billion in the U.S. alone in 2006 and it has gotten bigger the past two years. Taking an average of $60 bucks a game, that's 208,333,333 video games sold. Wow, over TWO MILLION potential games out there. So, I'm guessing you can find us some kind of solid real number that will show how many deaths came about because of video games and movies instead of a random post here or there? Cause really, I could find a post DAILY about a death from someone ODing on pharmacudicals, dieing in a car accident, dieing from alcohol poisoning, dieing from liver or lung cancer, dieing from a gun, etc.

Its disgusting you call yourself a conservative and then parade absolute bull**** like this out here.

Its the same absolute crap that's been going on since the 70's with thie ignorant "Bothered about D&D" claiming it was going to create a generation of people trying to slice each others heads off and calling forth demons from the bowels of hell.

Billions of people in this world play video games and don't go out killing people or slaughteirng people or choking people. Yet because probably 1% of 1% may end up doing it, that to you somehow means it should be banned for "study". Yet, the very fact that you ONLY push it for these two ignorant things and not for things that factually and knowingly cause hundreds of thousands more deaths per year shows your absolute dishonesty and fascist oppressive freedom hating agenda in this matter.

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the makeout hobo

Did you ever think that instead of movies making people violent, that people that are already violent and unstable are attracted to these kinds of movies?

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rivrrat

Wow. Let's do some math, shall we?

Natural Born Killers grossed $11,166,687 in it's opening weekend alone. Let's just say that it costs on average $12 per person to go see it. That means that 930557 people saw it on the opening weekend.

The film grossed $50,282,766 domestically as of last year. Let's just say that's $20 per person. Could be movie theatres, could be DVDs, whatever. That's 2,514,138 people exposed to the movie. Modestly.

Now, 14 years AFTER the release of the movie, we have a report of ONE person who killed someone AND who mentions having watched Natural Born Killers.

One, out of 2 and half million viewers.

One.

And your leap in logic is that the movie is the catalyst for the murder? Seriously? I mean, I would really like to know how you deduced this. Step by step. It's absolutely fascinating to me that anyone could make such wild leaps. I must see the process by which this happened.

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