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Old 06-13-08, 12:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Do you realize you are calling them terrorists, when you, and even they, do not now why they are there, nor what evidence exists to supoprt that claim? That is the problem. Our government is holding humans, without stated cause, without having any procedings, for 6 years now.

The military officer in charge there did not even believe most of them belonged there.

Maybe from your ethical viewpoint, government kidnapping without recourse is OK. It's not OK to some other people. It doesn't matter if they have the head of 9/11 there, or a mass bomber, or an ice cream truck driver, or you. Why would any of them magically get different ethical treatment. Thankfully we have a good system that affords people due process (before we kill them).

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Yep. It's like calling people who have been arrested criminals. Why should criminals have trials? After all, their criminals.

Same reasoning.
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Do you realize you are calling them terrorists, when you, and even they, do not now why they are there, nor what evidence exists to supoprt that claim? That is the problem. Our government is holding humans, without stated cause, without having any procedings, for 6 years now.

The military officer in charge there did not even believe most of them belonged there.

Maybe from your ethical viewpoint, government kidnapping without recourse is OK. It's not OK to some other people. It doesn't matter if they have the head of 9/11 there, or a mass bomber, or an ice cream truck driver, or you. Why would any of them magically get different ethical treatment. Thankfully we have a good system that affords people due process (before we kill them).

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Because they know that none of the charges would ever stick. Guilty until innocent - only there would never ever be any possibility of them ever being able to be innocent.
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