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Old 11-08-07, 10:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
It doesn't leave any ugly marks or bruises or open wounds.

I think it's torture, but what I stated above is why I think the "officials" are able to get away with saying it's NOT.
Well you can beat a man with a bar of soap in a towel and not leave a mark, that does not negate the beating.

I don't think they get away with saying its not. I don't think anyone, not even ToT, actually believes their rhetoric. They know its torture, they believe it to be a necessary means for whatever political ends they desire. But for the sake of our international reputation, we've adopted a "lets do it and say we didn't" attitude. We must keep up appearances no?

I mean, who's going to make a fuss when everyone knows we torture, and no one is willing to admit it or stand up to us about it? Who wants to be the enemy of a torturer? The only person who tries, is considered to have no chance for the presidential nomination.

Can't be president if you care about: liberty, the constitution, or real human suffering. You must be HARD, you must ASSERT AUTHORITY, and you must keep ALL options on the table, in order to be electable to this electorate.
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