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Old 07-27-07, 12:10 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Re: Is the current surge working?

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Not a task of the Waffen SS? Was not the SS a bureaucratic empire that controlled the concentration camps in which victims of the regime were held; and developed its own army, the Waffen-SS? SS members had to proclaim loyalty to Nazi ideology and demonstrate ‘pure’ Aryan ancestry going back to at least 1800. The SS thus recruited the most enthusiastic Nazi supporters (but you say your grandpa didn't like the war).
The Waffen SS was not like general SS, especially not during the war.
You confuse something here.

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As for the military, the Wehrmacht was very much involved in policies toward the Jews in the areas it occupied. After the war, Wehrmacht leaders tried to claim that the army had confined itself exclusively to fighting, and that the Holocaust had been carried out by the SS. In fact, top Wehrmacht commanders were fully informed about the extermination policy and cooperated in carrying out, although they left most of the actual killing to others. Particularly in occupied Russia, army units rounded up Jews, participated actively in the looting of their property, and sometimes killed them.
This is what I said, there have been attrocities, too, committed by the military, but the persecution of Jewish people was not their task. Maybe I should have said, it was not their task in general.

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Neither am I. I am referring, as you well know, to the (in)famous "Nuremberg" defense.
I see.

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Are you still beating your wife?
No, I have never done so. Do you?
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