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Old 07-27-07, 11:43 AM   #140 (permalink)
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Re: Is the current surge working?

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This is simply not true. There have been attrocities committed by the German military, too, maybe not to the extend like American troops did in World War II, but there were have been attrocities.

The persecution of Jewish people was not a task of the German military and it has not been a task of Waffen SS.
Not a task of the Waffen SS? Was not the SS a bureaucratic empire that controlled the concentration camps in which victims of the regime were held; and developed its own army, the Waffen-SS? SS members had to proclaim loyalty to Nazi ideology and demonstrate ‘pure’ Aryan ancestry going back to at least 1800. The SS thus recruited the most enthusiastic Nazi supporters (but you say your grandpa didn't like the war).

As for the military, the Wehrmacht was very much involved in policies toward the Jews in the areas it occupied. After the war, Wehrmacht leaders tried to claim that the army had confined itself exclusively to fighting, and that the Holocaust had been carried out by the SS. In fact, top Wehrmacht commanders were fully informed about the extermination policy and cooperated in carrying out, although they left most of the actual killing to others. Particularly in occupied Russia, army units rounded up Jews, participated actively in the looting of their property, and sometimes killed them.

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I am not talking about your "service" in Vietnam here.
Neither am I. I am referring, as you well know, to the (in)famous "Nuremberg" defense.

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This is the third time you could have said "no", but you diverted the third time.
Are you still beating your wife?
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