Also killing that child can be extremely emotional, your point?
Yes it would be. I could never kill a child.
Now your making the assumption that all unwanted children have bad lives, worse than those lives in nearly every part of the world including China, India, middle east, and Africa.
I made no such assumption. I stated that my personal experiences played into my decision.
Thats your justification for having an abortion?
Not at all. I need no justification for having one. I have no one to answer to but myself. The justification needed was that I wanted one.
However, I stated some of
reasons for having one.
Nice try
If they fired you, you would have a good case for lawsuit, in fact you should be HOPING that they fire you!
Not a matter of firing. I would have been physically incapable of performing my job.
Adding unwanted child? How about having sex with someone who wouldn't want a child from you but sex instead?
What do I care what he wanted? *I* didn't want a child. I still don't, which is why I use birth control. I have sex because I enjoy it, not to procreate.
Its called marriage so these events don't happen.
These "events" happen in marriages too. Marriage doesn't automatically make one able or willing to have a child. It's not some magical state of being.
Woman should have the burden of taking care of a "unwanted" child because of lack of responsibility in their lives.
Ahhh.. so we get down to it now. The "punishment" argument. You want to apply
your personal morals onto me and force me to live by your judgement. You, who do not know me, my situation, or anything about my life deem it okay to cast judgement down on me simply on the basis that I had sex when I didn't want to procreate.
You are free, of course to feel that way. In fact, at a young age I felt much the same way, so I do understand. Even though my views of the world have changed as I've grown up, I still fully support people holding such opinions. I just do not support them writing them into law.
Who I have sex with and why is my business.
So your saying that not a single woman has chosen to have an abortion to look fat, perhaps you need to re-read my statement. Thats your opinion that I am misogynistic. Your entire post is just based on your opinion and assumptions stemming from your bias towards woman.
No, I didn't say that not a single woman has had an abortion for that reason. You, however, stated it as your opinion as to why "women" (generalized) have abortions.
However, if a woman has an abortion because she doesn't want to "get fat", that's her perogative. It's not my place to judge them for the reasons for having a perfectly legal and legitimate procedure.
That makes no sense. Everyone has a say in such issues.
No, you really don't have much say in whether or not I follow your religious morals.
I didn't declare any of this wrong, your just mis-interpreting my post.
You implied it was with your post. If that was not what you were intending to imply, then please clarify why you brought voluntary, cosmetic procedures into the debate.
Both times when my wife and I choose adoption over keeping it, we also chose the parents. There was never any adoption home involved. When I think of the option to adopt out a child I think of a mother going through a small catalogue like we did and choosing the parents, not surrendering the child to the system.
It was such a hard thing for my wife to do that she didn't want to see either child after birth until the paperwork was signed. In fact in both instances she didn't see the child until a few days after she had left the hospital.
I went to see them in the nursery, but I'm a hard azz and can stomach this sort of thing. In my mind we had made the decision to adopt, and I was going to see that decision carried out.
I regret the abortions, but the more I think about those adoptions the more I know it was the right thing to do; and the price I pay for it today is worth it.
And I commend you for that, Jerry. I really do. I think you and your wife made some terribly difficult decisions. Personally, I don't believe I *could* give a child up after carrying to gestation and giving birth. That's *me*. I do not, however, fault anyone who does. That was your
choice and another couple may be much happier because of it. But this, like many things, is a very personal matter. If I had given a child up for adoption, it would be something that I think would have haunted me to my dying day... something I would
never have been able to get over. That's *me*. That's why I made the decision I did, because of my values, my situation, and how well I know myself.
