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Why we should welcome a Democrat win

As always, very interesting read.
The dollar’s connection with oil and American foreign policy is even more straightforward. The bear market in the dollar began on the very day that Mr Bush delivered his Axis of Evil speech on January 29, 2002. The dollar has been falling ever since, partly because it has dissipated US military power, but mainly because the Axis of Evil policy has raised the price of oil and thus perversely handed vast new wealth to oil-producing countries inherently hostile to America and reluctant to invest in dollar assets. The dollar will surely gain if American voters signal in next week’s election that this self-destructive policy must now be ended.
Seems gridlock is the way to go.
 
A pretty biased article, but some good points.

Americans should welcome a Dem reason for one HUGE reason - checks and balances. With one-party rule, there are next to none.
 
hipsterdufus said:
A pretty biased article, but some good points.

Americans should welcome a Dem reason for one HUGE reason - checks and balances. With one-party rule, there are next to none.


No thanks, I like the tax cuts I got..............
 
jujuman13 said:
Certainly NOT my point of view, but it does make sense in some convoluted way. Your comments please.
Congratulations, you’ve taken your first step into a larger world.
 
Navy Pride said:
No thanks, I like the tax cuts I got..............

You don't agree we should have checks and balances? You would rather take tax cuts and billions of debts over different opinions?

I don't think we should have a republican led or democratic led government. Single party rule leads to a totalitarian government.
 
Navy Pride said:
No thanks, I like the tax cuts I got..............

Bush's tax cuts are only for dividends and capital gains. So yes, if you are retired and have a 401k that didn't tank after Bush took office and you are withdrawing your money, then of course tax cuts would benefit you.

But the for the majority of the people who aren't retired or own their own business, then the tax cuts don't effect them. People who say the tax cuts have helped them need to look again.

Because they will not see tax cuts are their pay checks. No. Any monetary gains they are seeing is because they are qualifying for a lower tax bracket due to their lower salarys and if they are good investors they can get tax deductions from their investments. But it often takes a lot of money to make investments that qualify for tax deductions to make the deductions worth while. So tax brackets and tax deductions are not tax cuts, so don't be fooled by the false prophets. Because Bush's daddy was right, what we are witnessing is pure voodoo economics.
 
Moot said:
Bush's tax cuts are only for dividends and capital gains. So yes, if you are retired and have a 401k that didn't tank after Bush took office and you are withdrawing your money, then of course tax cuts would benefit you.

But the for the majority of the people who aren't retired or own their own business, then the tax cuts don't effect them. People who say the tax cuts have helped them need to look again.

Because they will not see tax cuts are their pay checks. No. Any monetary gains they are seeing is because they are qualifying for a lower tax bracket due to their lower salarys and if they are good investors they can get tax deductions from their investments. But it often takes a lot of money to make investments that qualify for tax deductions to make the deductions worth while. So tax brackets and tax deductions are not tax cuts, so don't be fooled by the false prophets. Because Bush's daddy was right, what we are witnessing is pure voodoo economics.
I am not retired, not even close and I own a business and I like my tax cuts. You were saying?
 
Navy Pride said:
No thanks, I like the tax cuts I got..............

Translation: No thanks, I like the government borrowing away our future so I can pay less taxes...............
 
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(Translation: No thanks, I like the government borrowing away our future so I can pay less taxes...............)

You could be polite and allow NAVY PRIDE to answer for himself.
 
jujuman13 said:
Certainly NOT my point of view, but it does make sense in some convoluted way. Your comments please.
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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8209-2428171,00.html

Well, if that article helps to dispell many of the myths that Republicans have spewed about what Democrats will or won't do. then I'm all for what it says.

However there are few myths the author insists on repeating that I want to address.....

.... Democrats instinctively would want to raise taxes, increase public spending, tighten the already stifling regulations on Wall Street, campaign for protectionism, strengthen trade unions and directly attack industries that have long been unpopular with the American Left — for example, health insurance, banking, pharmaceuticals and oil. At a time when the US economy is palpably getting weaker, while inflationary pressures remain quite intense, a combination of higher, stronger wage pressures and greater regulation would seem to pose a serious threat. ....

Myth #1 Democrats instinctively would want to raise taxes.

Not this time. With middle and lower income earners already suffering from the Bush economy, there is no way the Democrats would want to compound to their misery by raising taxes.

Myth #2 Democrats would increase public spending

Lets face it, it would be hard to beat the pork spending by the Republican congress. And lest we forget that when Bush took office there was a budget surplus and now that surplus is a trillion dollar debt that will passed on to future generations. No my friends, the booby prize on increased spending and lack of fiscal responsiblity goes to the Republicans. They earned it.

Myth #3 Democrats would tighten already stifling regulations on Wall Street.

If by that the author means Democrats would stop Enron type scandles and corporate off shore tax dodges and loop holes, then yes they just might do that. But how would that hurt the average American?

Myth #4 Democrats would campaign for protectionism.

If by that the author means protect the American worker with a minimum wage increase and help stop American jobs from going off shore, then I hope they do just that.

But if the author means subsidizing industry such as steel, pharmacuticals and mega farms that grow GM crops, then I think the author should take a look and see that Bush is already doing just that.

If the author is referring to NAFTA then I hope the Dems do reconsider NAFTA. Because if there was ever protectionism, NAFTA is truly it. NAFTA by the way is a Republican idea that favors US corporations and denies emerging third world markets fair trade and puts them into debt that they can never to hope to recover from. Not to mention it is contributing to the demise of the enviroment.

Myth #5 Democrats would strengthen trade unions.

Nothing wrong with that. The majority of Americans work in some kind of trade and if trade unions don't protect them....who will? I admit sometimes trade unions are uncompromising, but then so is corporate management. Without Unions, American workers would be reduced to third world workers competing for slave wages in unsafe conditions.

Look at this way, without workers business wouldn't make a profit. Without business, workers wouldn't have a job. Both sides need each other. So the best solution is always a compromise.

Myth # 6 Democrats would directly attack industries that have long been unpopular with the American Left — for example, health insurance, banking, pharmaceuticals and oil.

If by making health care and insurance available and affordable to everyone and negotiating the cost of medicine, then yes the Democrats will go after the health and pharmecutical industrys and rightly so. People without health insurance are going bankrupt and losing their homes when they suffer an illness or injury. That's not right and its not Christian and its unAmerican.

Banking should be regulated. After all, its our money their playing with. There are too many ponzy schemes in the financial industry and its the American economy and citizens who are the ones who get hurt.

The recent record breaking profits of the oil industry and the high cost of gas speaks for itself. The Dems are definitely talking about a windfall profit tax for Big Oil. And why not, since Big Oil has made themselves a monopoly and society is economically dependant on them. Something should be done to control the cost of gas or we all suffer.
 
CurrentAffairs said:
I am not retired, not even close and I own a business and I like my tax cuts. You were saying?

Good for you and I'm glad the tax cuts benefit you. But not everyone owns their own business so the tax cuts do nothing for them. So why pretend they do?
 
Moot said:
Bush's tax cuts are only for dividends and capital gains. So yes, if you are retired and have a 401k that didn't tank after Bush took office and you are withdrawing your money, then of course tax cuts would benefit you.

But the for the majority of the people who aren't retired or own their own business, then the tax cuts don't effect them. People who say the tax cuts have helped them need to look again.

Because they will not see tax cuts are their pay checks. No. Any monetary gains they are seeing is because they are qualifying for a lower tax bracket due to their lower salarys and if they are good investors they can get tax deductions from their investments. But it often takes a lot of money to make investments that qualify for tax deductions to make the deductions worth while. So tax brackets and tax deductions are not tax cuts, so don't be fooled by the false prophets. Because Bush's daddy was right, what we are witnessing is pure voodoo economics.

That is strange because anyone that was in the 15 percent bracket went to 10 percent and I am not involved in dividends or capital gains and I made $2,500. last year..............

Thank you President Bush...........
 
I like my tax cuts too, but more important things will influence my vote.
 
Binary_Digit said:
I like my tax cuts too, but more important things will influence my vote.


Yeah Tax cuts are not that important if the terrorists hit us with a couple of dirty Nukes they got from Iran or North Korea......

Thank you President Bush for keeping us safe for 5 years........
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah Tax cuts are not that important if the terrorists hit us with a couple of dirty Nukes they got from Iran or North Korea......

Thank you President Bush for keeping us safe for 5 years........

I guess you couldn't really say "Thank you President Bush for keeping us safe for 5 1/2 years", could you?
 
Iriemon said:
I guess you couldn't really say "Thank you President Bush for keeping us safe for 5 1/2 years", could you?

Well if Clinton would have taken OBL on a silver platter when he was offered by Sudan instead of getting blow jobs in the oval office we would not have had to worry about 9/11/01 now would we............
 
Navy Pride said:
Well if Clinton would have taken OBL on a silver platter when he was offered by Sudan instead of getting blow jobs in the oval office we would not have had to worry about 9/11/01 now would we............

Well if Bush hadn't gone on vacation after been specifically warned about 17 times that bin Laden was going to attack using hijacked airplanes we would not have had to worry about 9/11/01 now would we............
 
Iriemon said:
Well if Bush hadn't gone on vacation after been specifically warned about 17 times that bin Laden was going to attack using hijacked airplanes we would not have had to worry about 9/11/01 now would we............

Bush had 7 months, Blow Job had 8 years.........you do the math.....
 
The way I see it is this:

America is a Conservative nation, but Neocon parasites infested the Republican party, and if a short-term Democratic control of the House causes real Conservatives to take the party back, I am all in favor of it. To be blunt, the Bushnevik faction of the Republican party must be completely destroyed at all costs, even if that means temporarily giving up control of our government.
 
danarhea said:
The way I see it is this:

America is a Conservative nation, but Neocon parasites infested the Republican party, and if a short-term Democratic control of the House causes real Conservatives to take the party back, I am all in favor of it. To be blunt, the Bushnevik faction of the Republican party must be completely destroyed at all costs, even if that means temporarily giving up control of our government.

Be careful of what you wish for my left wing friend......You just might get it and it will be the end of this country.......Think about it........
 
Navy Pride said:
Be careful of what you wish for my left wing friend......You just might get it and it will be the end of this country.......Think about it........

Whatever you say, my homosexual friend.
 
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(Thank you President Bush for keeping us safe for 5 years........)

Thank you President Bush for being responsible for the complete mismanagement of the peace in Iraq
Thank you President Bush for encouraging terrorism throughout the World.
Thank you President Bush, your idea of a Bipartisan Presidency to be arrived at by total disdain of any one else's sound policies, have led to a divided America.
Thank you President Bush for allowing America to run up the largest deficit it has ever (enjoyed?).
Thank you President for reducing the value of the US Dollar by nearly 30% during your tenure of office.
Thank you President Bush for not talking with the Pharmaceutical Company's with a view to them reducing their obscene pricing.
Thank you President Bush for giving me a Tax break that goes some way to paying for the increased price of Gas.
And finally, on behalf of the 101 American personnel who died this month of October 2006 because YOU lied about the reason for waging war on Iraq, thank you for letting them be murdered so that your Presidency can have a lasting memory.
 
Navy Pride said:
That is strange because anyone that was in the 15 percent bracket went to 10 percent and I am not involved in dividends or capital gains and I made $2,500. last year..............

Thank you President Bush...........

If you retired from the Navy then I guess you can thank your government for supporting you in your old age, eh?

BTW, the goverment is the largest employer in the US and then after that its Walmart. lol.
 
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Moot said:
If you retired from the Navy then I guess you can thank your government for supporting you in your old age, eh?

BTW, the goverment is the largest employer in the US and then after that its Walmart. lol.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Walmart overtake the military as the largest employer a few years back?
 
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