• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Murtha says U.S. poses top threat to world peace

Caine said:
I guess by repeating the same junk and not acknowledging what I asked you to in my reply to you, your going to "cut and run" from this one?

Let me repeat myself again

Okay.... Its obvious you didn't read this the first time.


And I guess you didn't read this part either did you?

Try to R-E-A-D next time before you respond ignorantly.

ow, before you respond, think again if you had a young daughter living in your home and the police busted up into your home with a warrant at 0230 in the morning. Do you think she would be "terrified" when she heard the door break open? And please, THINK about it and respond intelligently, instead of just attacking Kerry on some other point (because I admit there are plenty of dumb things about that guy), think about this one specific instance in which you refuse to come to the realization that the GOP has "brainwashed" you so to speak that you really believe he is calling the troops terrorists when in fact he is only describing the feeling of fear that a woman and children have when having thier home invaded by soldiers in the wee hours of the night.

That is what you said and those homes they are breaking into i hiding terrorists........That is why they are breaking in to them........There are not innocent Iraqis hiding in them................What part of that do you not understand????
 
Navy Pride said:
That is what you said and those homes they are breaking into i hiding terrorists........That is why they are breaking in to them........There are not innocent Iraqis hiding in them................What part of that do you not understand????

LOL.
You have GOT to be the most gullible person on the PLANET.

Do you REALLY think that every single tip they recieve actually profits from detaining a terrorist???? UN-****ing-BELIEVABLE.

As a member of such searches, as I stated before, we usually searched a whole neighborhood at a time, and came up with little or nothing.

You are RIOT NP!!!!!

And you are some kind of expert on military operations in Iraq?
 
Caine said:
But, Kerry isn't calling anyone a terrorist. He is saying that the women and children are scared because people are forcing themselves into thier homes late at night while they are asleep, and waking them up in order to do thier search. Terrified/Scared both mean just about the same thing. He chose a word that came back to haunt him in the GOP "misinformation" camp. Now, is it wrong for US Soldiers to go into these homes like this? Hell no! And thats not what he was saying either, he was saying that we shouldn't be doing it, the Iraqi Military should be doing most of this type of work..


Kerry is a Yale graduate and a politician,he is well that the wrong choice of words can have a negative impact.He could have said troops were startling iraqi women and children with their night searches or he could have just said troops were doing jobs the iraqis should already be doing themselves.When he accused our troops of terrorizing women and children he basicly went the Turban Durban way and hopped on the demonize our troops band wagon.
 
jamesrage said:
Kerry is a Yale graduate and a politician,he is well that the wrong choice of words can have a negative impact.He could have said troops were startling iraqi women and children with their night searches or he could have just said troops were doing jobs the iraqis should already be doing themselves.When he accused our troops of terrorizing women and children he basicly went the Turban Durban way and hopped on the demonize our troops band wagon.

Isn't Bush a Yale grad as well? And of course a politician....and yet, he chooses the wrong words ALL THE TIME.

It happens.
 
Stace said:
Isn't Bush a Yale grad as well? And of course a politician....and yet, he chooses the wrong words ALL THE TIME.

It happens.
Darn!

You beat me to it!
 
Stace said:
Isn't Bush a Yale grad as well? And of course a politician....and yet, he chooses the wrong words ALL THE TIME.

It happens.
:rofl Except that Bush is a Republican so to some of our members he has a lifetime "Get out of Jail Free" card. Bush has to be the worst public speaker in modern presidential history but try to convince JamesR of that!
 
Stace said:
Isn't Bush a Yale grad as well? And of course a politician....and yet, he chooses the wrong words ALL THE TIME.

It happens.


I thought you libs always claimed that Kerry was smarter than Bush?Perhaps you all are wrong.
 
jamesrage said:
I thought you libs always claimed that Kerry was smarter than Bush?Perhaps you all are wrong.

I certainly never claimed any such thing.
 
jamesrage said:
I thought you libs always claimed that Kerry was smarter than Bush?Perhaps you all are wrong.

Well, he is a better public speaker.
But... EVERYONE makes mistakes.
 
26 X World Champs said:
:rofl Except that Bush is a Republican so to some of our members he has a lifetime "Get out of Jail Free" card. Bush has to be the worst public speaker in modern presidential history but try to convince JamesR of that!


Bush may not speak well but at least he is not calling and or comparing our troops to terrorist ,nor has he called our troops monsters in the form of millions of fighting men
 
Caine said:
Well, he is a better public speaker.
But... EVERYONE makes mistakes.

Mistake is a " error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.;"(dictionary.com).Kerry has been in politics for over thirty years,he knows full well the consiquences of using the wrong words or saying the wrong thing.Kerry used the word "terrorize" instead of "startle" because he wanted a certian outcome.That outcome was to paint a picture that our troops were terrorizining Iraqi women and children instead of our troops were doing a job that Iraqis should be doing.
 
Caine said:
LOL.
You have GOT to be the most gullible person on the PLANET.

Do you REALLY think that every single tip they recieve actually profits from detaining a terrorist???? UN-****ing-BELIEVABLE.

As a member of such searches, as I stated before, we usually searched a whole neighborhood at a time, and came up with little or nothing.

You are RIOT NP!!!!!

And you are some kind of expert on military operations in Iraq?

No but like your hero Kerry I think you think our troops are terrorists because we go into home in the middle of the night where terorists are hiding.......That is why i don't believe you were ever in Iraq or in the military for that matter.........
 
Navy Pride said:
No but like your hero Kerry I think you think our troops are terrorists because we go into home in the middle of the night where terorists are hiding.......That is why i don't believe you were ever in Iraq or in the military for that matter.........
This is one messed up post. It makes you wonder if NP has issues beyond what we already have witnessed here?

It's like he's unable to comprehend the simple meaning of what Kerry said BECAUSE he wants Kerry to have said the $hit about terrorists, it would please NP if it were true.

Is there such a thing as chronic seasickness?
 
26 X World Champs said:
This is one messed up post. It makes you wonder if NP has issues beyond what we already have witnessed here?

It's like he's unable to comprehend the simple meaning of what Kerry said BECAUSE he wants Kerry to have said the $hit about terrorists, it would please NP if it were true.

Is there such a thing as chronic seasickness?

Sounds like a personal attack to me..........Be careful champs this time you might be gone for good and we would miss you......;)

As far as Kerry goes God only knows what he thinks....The guy is the biggest flip flopper in the history of this country..............One thing for sure he is no friend of the military.......
 
Navy Pride said:
That is why i don't believe you were ever in Iraq or in the military for that matter.........

Oh god, you're going to start this crap again? I invite you to go look at my photo gallery here on DP....I think you'll find some pictures of interest posted there. I'll even give you the link right here so you don't have to go searching around:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/photo/showgallery.php?cat=507&ppuser=0
 
Stace said:
Oh god, you're going to start this crap again? I invite you to go look at my photo gallery here on DP....I think you'll find some pictures of interest posted there. I'll even give you the link right here so you don't have to go searching around:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/photo/showgallery.php?cat=507&ppuser=0


Are you the black cat or the tan cat?

Picture_019.jpg
 
Navy Pride said:
No but like your hero Kerry I think you think our troops are terrorists because we go into home in the middle of the night where terorists are hiding.......That is why i don't believe you were ever in Iraq or in the military for that matter.........

HOLY **** NP!!! you did it again, you really DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ!


Me from earlier said:
But, Kerry isn't calling anyone a terrorist. He is saying that the women and children are scared because people are forcing themselves into thier homes late at night while they are asleep, and waking them up in order to do thier search. Terrified/Scared both mean just about the same thing. He chose a word that came back to haunt him in the GOP "misinformation" camp. Now, is it wrong for US Soldiers to go into these homes like this? Hell no! And thats not what he was saying either, he was saying that we shouldn't be doing it, the Iraqi Military should be doing most of this type of work.


Amazing, how this answer to your problem was sitting right there but you chose to ignore it just because I was trying to get it through your thick skull that Kerry's comment was not even close to comparing soldiers to terrorists.

I understand exactly what he was saying, but then again, when you are too busy LOOKING for something wrong instead of the truth, you'll find what your looking for 99% of the time.

You are a sad, sad, man.
 
Caine said:
But, Kerry isn't calling anyone a terrorist. He is saying that the women and children are scared because people are forcing themselves into thier homes late at night while they are asleep, and waking them up in order to do thier search. Terrified/Scared both mean just about the same thing. He chose a word that came back to haunt him in the GOP "misinformation" camp. Now, is it wrong for US Soldiers to go into these homes like this? Hell no! And thats not what he was saying either, he was saying that we shouldn't be doing it, the Iraqi Military should be doing most of this type of work.
Amazing, how this answer to your problem was sitting right there but you chose to ignore it just because I was trying to get it through your thick skull that Kerry's comment was not even close to comparing soldiers to terrorists.

I understand exactly what he was saying, but then again, when you are too busy LOOKING for something wrong instead of the truth, you'll find what your looking for 99% of the time.

You are a sad, sad, man.


It seems that if all Kerry wanted to say was that our troops should be doing other things and that the Iraqis should be doing the door to door searches in the middle of the night, he should have said those things with out accusing our troops of terrorizing Iraqi women and children.It seems his attempt was to sucker punch the troops in the mouth and to appease our enemies by supplying them with propadanda.
 
jamesrage said:
It seems that if all Kerry wanted to say was that our troops should be doing other things and that the Iraqis should be doing the door to door searches in the middle of the night, he should have said those things with out accusing our troops of terrorizing Iraqi women and children.It seems his attempt was to sucker punch the troops in the mouth and to appease our enemies by supplying them with propadanda.

Nope, Wrong.
Again, its that you WANT him to be sucker punching our troops in the mouth and appeasing our enemies. Its what you want, so when some GOP Spin doctor created some stupid thought like "Kerry is calling our troops terrorists", you can jump on the GOP bandwagon and scream blasphemy.

Some people will never succumb to logical reasoning
 
Navy Pride said:
Sounds like a personal attack to me..........Be careful champs this time you might be gone for good and we would miss you......;)
Then you would be wrong, again. What else is new? Becareful what you wish for...
Navy Pride said:
As far as Kerry goes God only knows what he thinks....The guy is the biggest flip flopper in the history of this country..............One thing for sure he is no friend of the military.......
Is there ever a chance you would post something that is substantiated by facts instead of your prejudice to anything Democratic?

You seem to write the same four posts over and over again and for unknown reasons you never provide any facts. Why not humor some of us and write a post that makes a point that is provable, just one time, OK?

You're obsession with Sen. Kerry, Pres. Clinton and Sen. Clinton and Rep. Murtha make up about 99% of your posts and the "talking points" are always the same:

1. Kerry is no friend of the Military, he's a flip-flopper and he was a disgrace in Vietnam.

2. Pres. Clinton is a rapist, a convicted liar and he fooled the country (for 8 years no less) pretending to be a centrist when in Navy Pride's reality he was a far, far lefty! He also wouldn't trust his own grandchildren or nieces in a room alone with Pres. Clinton for fear that he would rape them too.

3. Sen. Clinton, AKA "The Ice Princess" is a carpetbagger who is also pretending to be a centrist and she is actually even further left than her husband plus Navy really wants her to be the Democratic nominee because she hasn't any chance to beat anyone GOP!

4. Rep. Murtha is a super left wing anti-war cut and run renegade who pretended to be in the military for 37 years and has been a secret left wing conspirator his entire career. He also knows nothing about the Military, has no connections within, and Navy also knows his district in PA and his seat is in great jeapordy because his constituents are much more like Navy Pride and are thoroughly and completely embarrased by Murtha.

Is this accurate? Did I misrepresent what I've read in your posts?
 
Caine said:
Nope, Wrong.
Again, its that you WANT him to be sucker punching our troops in the mouth and appeasing our enemies.

That is what John Benedict Arnold Kerry is doing is sucker punching our troops in the mouth and appeasing our enemies with propaganda to use.


Its what you want, so when some GOP Spin doctor created some stupid thought like "Kerry is calling our troops terrorists", you can jump on the GOP bandwagon and scream blasphemy.

A GOP cheerleader didn't have to spin anything.It was Kerry's own words that revealed him to be a active buddy ****er..

Some people will never succumb to logical reasoning

If you succumbed to logical reasoning you would understand that politicians who served theirty plus years in office are really good at wordplay and they make a conscience decision to which words they use.If you succumbed to logical reasoning you would understand that if Kerry wanted to say that are troops are doing jobs that Iraqis should be doing now or troops doing jobs that Iraqis are capable of doing themselves he would have stated as such,he would have not sucker punched our troops in the mouth by accusing them of terrorizing women and children.
 
jamesrage said:
A GOP cheerleader didn't have to spin anything.It was Kerry's own words that revealed him to be a active buddy ****er..
If it was as clear as you WISHED it was, then I wouldn't be arguing with you.

But I am, because you are wrong.

BTW, Im going to call my little sister's teacher a terrorist because my little sister is terrified of her. Maybe I can get her arrested.
 
Caine said:
If it was as clear as you WISHED it was, then I wouldn't be arguing with you.

But I am, because you are wrong.


The only reason you are disagreeing me because you are a liberal.If this was Karl Rove saying the same thing Kerry said you would be in agreement with me.Your hatred for Bush has blinded you.

BTW, Im going to call my little sister's teacher a terrorist because my little sister is terrified of her. Maybe I can get her arrested.

Would you tell the school board,the media and the school principal that your little sister's teacher terrorizes her on a daily basis?
 
Back
Top Bottom