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    Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    With all of his itemized deductions, Sanders’s taxable income was significantly lower than it would have been if he had taken the standard deduction. The deductions left Sanders and his wife paying $27,653 in federal income taxes in 2014, on a joint income of $205,271 — an effective federal tax rate of 13.5 percent. If that seems low to you, your instincts are right: According to the Tax Foundation, the average federal income-tax rate for a couple making $200,000 to $500,000 in 2014 was 15.2 percent. The “millionaires and billionaires” that Sanders is so fond of berating payed, on average, just more than twice as much of their income (27.4 percent) in federal taxes as he did.

    What Sanders did, using every option and advantage available under a Byzantine tax code to minimize his tax payment, is a normal practice for many Americans. But it’s also exactly what the targets of his anger do. You can argue about whether or not that’s greed, but it’s impossible to argue that it isn’t hypocrisy. The paragon of liberal purity is not as pure as he’d like the world to believe.

    Bernie Sanders's Tax Returns Reveal His Hypocrisy
    Extremely rich. Bernie Sander's central message is that the super rich do not pay their share and get off easy while the poor and middle class suffer. I hate to break it to Sander's supporters but Sanders benefits as much as the millionaires for "tax breaks for the wealthy."

    Many liberals talk about Republicans not following "conservative values." Bernie does not follow liberal values. He's just as bought, if not more, than Hillary and the rest.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Extremely rich. Bernie Sander's central message is that the super rich do not pay their share and get off easy while the poor and middle class suffer. I hate to break it to Sander's supporters but Sanders benefits as much as the millionaires for "tax breaks for the wealthy."

    Many liberals talk about Republicans not following "conservative values." Bernie does not follow liberal values. He's just as bought, if not more, than Hillary and the rest.
    Has Sanders advocated for people to pay more than they owe in taxes? If not, no hypocrisy.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Has Sanders advocated for people to pay more than they owe in taxes? If not, no hypocrisy.
    He advocates getting rid of the loopholes that he is using himself.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    He advocates getting rid of the loopholes that he is using himself.
    But he is not advocating people not using the rules. He is advocating changing the rules. This is a large, unsubtle difference.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But he is not advocating people not using the rules. He is advocating changing the rules. This is a large, unsubtle difference.
    If the rule is so unfair and hurting the little guy then why is Bernie taking advantage of it? He is directly making it worse for the lower classes. I certainly understand the difference between the two but it's still hypocritical. Well unless you are of the belief that people can only be good when forced to by the govt.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Extremely rich. Bernie Sander's central message is that the super rich do not pay their share and get off easy while the poor and middle class suffer. I hate to break it to Sander's supporters but Sanders benefits as much as the millionaires for "tax breaks for the wealthy."

    Many liberals talk about Republicans not following "conservative values." Bernie does not follow liberal values. He's just as bought, if not more, than Hillary and the rest.
    Bernie's tax deductions:


    $22,946 on home mortgage interest
    $14,843 on real estate taxes
    $9,666 on state and local income taxes
    $8,000 in gifts to charity
    $350 in gifts to charity other than by cash or check
    $4,473 in unreimbursed job expenses, which according to tax law can include fees such as union dues and travel


    Man, I totally remember him railing against those exotic, super nuanced home mortgage interest, charity and real estate tax loopholes; what a complete hypocrite!

    Nevermind that his condemnation is and has always primarily been reserved for the state of taxation law, and specifically the people who actively purchase influence to legislate for special tax loopholes beyond the reach of most laypeople, so even if these deductions were truly non-standard (they're not), he would not be anywhere close to true hypocrisy.

    Obviously even the notion that any of this makes him nearly as bought as Hillary (nevermind being more so) who is literally awash in hundreds of millions cumulatively from private interests throughout her entire career is completely laughable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    If the rule is so unfair and hurting the little guy then why is Bernie taking advantage of it? He is directly making it worse for the lower classes. I certainly understand the difference between the two but it's still hypocritical. Well unless you are of the belief that people can only be good when forced to by the govt.
    In general, yes. That's why we have laws and a taxation system; because people by default and on average are amoral, selfish little ****s who cannot be trusted to exist in a state of anarchy. The truly altruistic are exceedingly rare.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    If the rule is so unfair and hurting the little guy then why is Bernie taking advantage of it? He is directly making it worse for the lower classes. I certainly understand the difference between the two but it's still hypocritical. Well unless you are of the belief that people can only be good when forced to by the govt.
    Well, no it is not hypocritical to do as you expect others to do. I am not a Sanders fan, but at least I can do more than call him names...
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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, no it is not hypocritical to do as you expect others to do. I am not a Sanders fan, but at least I can do more than call him names...
    So if it were a conservative that regularly engaged in homosexual intercourse and advocated for the criminalizing of homosexual intercourse you could find no way in which that would be hypocritical?

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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    He's going to have to work with congress. Obama poisoned the well as soon as he could so he wouldn't have to.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders: Tax hypocrite

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    He's going to have to work with congress. Obama poisoned the well as soon as he could so he wouldn't have to.
    Sure he will.......As the Senator from Vermont and not the president.

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