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Why Romney % GOP lost and will continue to lose

Clinton raised taxes and it raised revenues year after year.

Clinton also lowered rates and saw revenue rise year after year. Because revenues have little to do with rates. However, thank you for demonstrating my point.

If the rich want to leave, I will wave goodbye from the airport or dock. We need to make it crystal clear to them that if the door does not him them in the ass as they leave we will most definitely make sure a much heavier door hits them smack dab in the middle of their face when they try to return or cheat to reap benefits of being an American. They are free to leave and I will not advocate building any wall to keep them in. But once they leave, there will be no door to return without paying up in full plus a little just to say you were a damn fool.

Nah, that's mean-spiritedness; the response of little men. We are better than that. But yes, obviously if you wish to revoke your citizenship and move elsewhere you are no longer due the privileges of American citizenship. But I'm looking forward to killing this goose with a little less fervor, given the unfortunate consequences for the rest of us.
 
The reason we lost was because people bought into Obama's lies. Sure, yesterday was fun for liberals. But today reality will start to set in. The reason I though we'd win was because I had too much faith in the American people to actually educate themselves. This is the result of dependency, and government education.

The big problems:

1: The country is rapidly getting to the point where there are more takers than makers.

2: The GOP had a turn out problem. Romney did not get as many votes as McCain. (If Romney had the same number of votes as McCain Romney would have won)
 
I love this meme. Let's pretend the whole Aiken, Limbaugh, Fluke, Mourdock thing didn't happen. You need proof of what just happened.

Your rehearsed lines are boring everyone, and your overuse of the term "meme" shows a lack of imagination. Try some new material.
 
Clinton also lowered rates and saw revenue rise year after year. Because revenues have little to do with rates. However, thank you for demonstrating my point.



Nah, that's mean-spiritedness; the response of little men. We are better than that. But yes, obviously if you wish to revoke your citizenship and move elsewhere you are no longer due the privileges of American citizenship. But I'm looking forward to killing this goose with a little less fervor, given the unfortunate consequences for the rest of us.

Both Bush and Clinton raised taxes and revenues and growth resulted.

Tax Cuts Don't Lead to Economic Growth, a New 65-Year Study Finds - Derek Thompson - The Atlantic

In 1990, President George H. W. Bush raised taxes, and GDP growth increased over the next five years. In 1993, President Bill Clinton raised the top marginal tax rate, and GDP growth increased over the next five years. In 2001 and 2003, President Bush cut taxes, and we faced a disappointing expansion followed by a Great Recession.

As to this silly 'little men' insult - actually it is the response of an American patriot. If somebody puts green above the red white and blue, to hell with them. Their absence simply leaves more opportunity for the rest of us still on the field.
 
wtf?

That kind of thinking [if I understand what you're saying--who knows] leads to a bunch of stupid magical associations of correlated things which are not actually "causes".
It's not the cause the economic bullies always assign to it: that Americans are too lazy to run a store. But we come from the same people who were energetic and responsible before democracy was destroyed by Snob Rule; nothing has changed about what's inside typical Americans. It is the economic restrictions imposed on us from the outside, such as no more starting at the bottom and working your way up, that make it impossible for most Americans to freely act the way their talents drive them. The ruling class finances these naturalized foreigners to block our natural way. We are stuck in low wages jobs unless we go against our character and submit to the unnatural and childish lifestyle unnecessarily required us in college education. The purpose of all this suffocating lack of opportunities is to make us escapist and hopeless. The illegitimate anti-democratic power of the ruling class seeks to put us in our place because history has proved that they could never dominate real Americans; they needed to create a new majority from traditionally slavish countries. Taking away our opportunities and giving them to people we never voted to allow into our country further humiliates the original majority.
 
Both Bush and Clinton raised taxes and revenues and growth resulted.

And a recent Congressional Research Service study of top tax rates found no correlation between rate reductions and economic growth (actually an inverse relationship), but did find a correlation between lower top rates and greater income disparity. The study was subsequently deep-sixed by Republicans but is still available on the internet:

Throughout the late-1940s and 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was typically above 90%; today it
is 35%. Additionally, the top capital gains tax rate was 25% in the 1950s and 1960s, 35% in the
1970s; today it is 15%. The real GDP growth rate averaged 4.2% and real per capita GDP
increased annually by 2.4% in the 1950s. In the 2000s, the average real GDP growth rate was
1.7% and real per capita GDP increased annually by less than 1%. There is not conclusive
evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the
top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax
rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth. However, the top
tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top
of the income distribution.
The share of income accruing to the top 0.1% of U.S. families
increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% by 2007 before falling to 9.2% due to the 2007-2009
recession. The evidence does not suggest necessarily a relationship between tax policy with
regard to the top tax rates and the size of the economic pie, but there may be a relationship to how
the economic pie is sliced.

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/files/documents/CRSTaxesandtheEconomy Top Rates.pdf
 
Dude you are cracking me up.
lol
Typical cover-up tactic. When you don't have an answer to prevent people from taking appropriate action against this treason and you can't deny that most small stores are owned by immigrants, you have to pretend you are mocking whoever reveals your side's hatred of real Americans and hope that people won't listen to the obvious explanation of what has been going on all these years.
 
Typical cover-up tactic. When you don't have an answer to prevent people from taking appropriate action against this treason and you can't deny that most small stores are owned by immigrants, you have to pretend you are mocking whoever reveals your side's hatred of real Americans and hope that people won't listen to the obvious explanation of what has been going on all these years.

Did you ever provide the cites to statutes and regulations that cause convenience stores to be owned by immigrants? Did I miss that post?
 
Typical of an insulting multicultie, so sure of himself in his moral superiority, Biden is actually praising Indians for this government-sponsored stealing of our store-owning opportunities.

Statutes? Regulations? Have you got ANYTHING to back up your conspiracy theory?
 
Statutes? Regulations? Have you got ANYTHING to back up your conspiracy theory?
How do you explain this immigrant dominance in owning store? And what about the lack of regulations to keep America for Americans and American businesses for Americans? Also, what's with this requirement to research sources, most of which are self-serving and secretive, before anyone can make a statement on his own? Every time I read something I might one day post on the Internet, I must write down the source or else shut up about it? That's just a sneaky way of censoring debate. I ask people to take a pick; either believe what I suspect or continue passively believing what you are told by higher authorities, all of whom think you deserve to be looking up to them. As for me, I think the structure of America is upside down, so I don't look up to anybody in a higher position as deserving to be there. Even when I agree with one of those people, I look at it as him agreeing with me. With that attitude, I maintain my independence from status. I ask all the source freaks, "Which ventriloquist are you a dummy for?"
 
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How do you explain this immigrant dominance in owning store?
The fact that he can or cannot come up with another hypothesis has no bearing on whether or not your hypothesis is correct.
Firstly, though, you should demonstrate that your observation about immigrants "dominance in owning store" is accurate.
Where did you get this info? Will you share it?

And what about the lack of regulations to keep America for Americans and American businesses for Americans?
What are you saying here? Are you advocating that we do not let foreign companies do business in the US with Americans? Or what exactly?

Also, what's with this requirement to research sources, most of which are self-serving and secretive, before anyone can make a statement on his own?
On occasion, people on the internet are wrong.

Providing sources allows everyone in the conversation see the evidence and make up their own minds based on the evidence presented.

I have seen one or more wacky theory on the internet which was based on erroneous assumptions about what was factual.
Because I have been burnt before, I prefer to see for myself rather than just believe random anonymous persons from the interwebs.
You mileage may vary.
Perhaps you have never come across erroneous or faulty information on the internet. idk.

Every time I read something I might one day post on the Internet, I must write down the source or else shut up about it?
There's this thing called a search engine which allows you to access w ide variety of information based upon certain parameters you choose. For instance, you can use a search engine to find out about your dog's skin condition, your Aunt Edna's exceptional flatulence, or the laws surrounding owning w/e stores you're on about.
This wa, you don't have to write down every source, you just have to remember enough of the data to find it again via a search engine.
this link will take you to a search engine: Google
gl

That's just a sneaky way of censoring debate.
Not providing sources is a way of promoting any old crackpot idea whatsoever w/o regard to whether or not that idea has any basis in reality.
As I noted above, I have already seen with my own eyes at least one case of someone on the internet providing erroneous data and drawing bad conclusions from that bad data. So, now I am a little wiser and less credulous. You may not have run into any info which you were skeptical of, but I assure you, it's out there.

I ask people to take a pick; either believe what I suspect or continue passively believing what you are told by higher authorities, all of whom think you deserve to be looking up to them.
May we please choose to examine the facts as best as we can find them and make our own informed decisions based on that information? Please?

As for me, I think the structure of America is upside down, so I don't look up to anybody in a higher position as deserving to be there.
Does this cause you to have reservations about your Dr.'s advice? It's not like spending years studying and practicing gives him any realy specialized knowledge or skills that we all don't already have. Is it? I mean, I had my appendix taken out under a shade tree and I am just fine.
People like doctors, engineers, etc are just scammers pretending that they're the only ones who know how to diagnose, perform surgery, build skyscrapers, and design aircraft. really any of us can do that stuff. Why trust these supposed "experts"? Amirite?

Is it okay to put you in that same category of people who I don't automatically believe just because of your status?

Cause I am kind of feeling that I should put in that category. I"d really rather see the facts for myself and draw my own conclusions. But that's just me.
I ask all the source freaks, "Which ventriloquist are you a dummy for?"
Maybe it's just because I live so close to the MO border, but I am kind of a show-me guy.

As always, your mileage may vary.


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It is when the GDP is over 15 Trillion. One year in debt is hardly apocalyptic.

Politicians love throwing around big numbers to scare the average Joe. Without explaining how the debt and deficit actually brakes down. Such as 2/3 of the foreign debt is owed by the private sector not the government. We owe a lot more debt to each other than 15/16 Trillion. The deficit, the amount we add to our debt each year, has came down around 100 Billion every year since 2009. We pay less net interest on our debt now than we did four years ago due to significantly lower rates. Interest on debt right now is actually lower than inflation at around 1.5%. Things Republicans conveniently leave out when attacking Obama.

I think we should start balancing the budget, but the economy comes first. I'm not saying we should go out and borrow like there's no tomorrow, but the severity of the debt problem is blown way out of proportion by politics. Republicans, and challengers in general, love pointing to some random kid and say "look he's got 50k debt on his shoulders already". It's a rope a duck trick that 99% of people keep falling for, sure for a kid 50k seems like an awful lot but no one realizes the kid is worth millions and millions because of the investments on him.

So many conservatives love pointing to Reagan, yet almost none of them know what they're talking about. They take the parts of Reagan that fit their beliefs and neglect fundamental things such as Reagan's belief that debt could build wealth. Just because Reagan passed out some tax cuts doesn't mean he believe in smaller is always better for government. This and the fact that time has changed is exactly why Bush failed miserably trying to copy Reagan.

Still Bush and Reagan, huh?

Just keep on borrowing $1,000,000,000,000 from yourselves every few months and I'm sure everything will work out fine.
 
And a recent Congressional Research Service study of top tax rates found no correlation between rate reductions and economic growth (actually an inverse relationship), but did find a correlation between lower top rates and greater income disparity. The study was subsequently deep-sixed by Republicans but is still available on the internet:

Thee is more to growth than tax rates, otherwise it could be argued that an 80% tax rate would make everyone prosperous.

But what complicates matters for business now, apart from taxes. is the other restrictions that have been imposed since the 1950's. There are far fewer economic freedoms now than there was then but these added regulations are never mentioned when pointing out the varying percentages regarding taxes.
 
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Thee is more to growth than tax rates, otherwise it could be argued that an 80% tax rate would make everyone prosperous.

But what complicates matters for business now, apart from taxes. is the other restrictions that have been imposed since the 1950's. There are far fewer economic freedoms now than there was then but these added regulations are never mentioned when pointing out the varying percentages regarding taxes.
Then why didn't the GOPers repeal the Endangered Species Act when they had a monopoly in Washington? You really don't understand the way the ruling class rules. Sorry, I can't provide a source for restricting = hoarding; somehow no one source-provider or pundit wants to tell the truth about those who own him.
 
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