• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

The main reason I think Romney will win!

Wiggen said:
I hope like hell Romney loses, but if he wins it will be because of the crap mentioned in this column:

The Pulse: The smearing of a president: From start, unrelenting, unfair
Click to expand...



Nicely written little article there Michelle, maybe once you leave the White House, you can make money
fome home writing memoirs, about mean ole people who did Not support your Husband.

Will be interesting to see how you frame some of the answers, like You Didn't Build that" to small business
& lastly to Voters in his speech Vote for Revenge'
However I am sure You have many of those little tidbits to weave into your Tales" of For the First Time You Are proud to Be an American, Just little things like that- to be remembered in History '
 
Amigo said:
Send me a link.
Click to expand...

If he sent you all the links of Romney changing his positions it would crash the server and possibly the internet. Seriously if you don't know about this you have to be absolutely wacked out of your gourd.
 
Rosie1 said:
Very silly to put up a statement that divine intervention will help Romney win. Jesus was a liberal, after all. And if you're that attached to the Bible, you'd know that there is verse after verse, stating that God is above all politics. I do resent some Republicans thinking that their political party is somehow supposed to be more righteous that any others. Sorry folks, if you were, you would show more empathy and generosity. I resent Rove and others for using tactical exploition of christianity, and christians.
Click to expand...

This has to do with Good and Evil, not liberal vs. conservative. :roll:
 
Bobcat said:
Just curious, what do you see in Romney's past that makes him immoral? Is being successful immoral? Is being mormon immoral? Is creating successful companies out of failing companies immoral? is fixing a failing olympics immoral? Is being a loyal husband and father immoral? is helping the poor immoral? is giving huge amounts of money to charities immoral?
Click to expand...

Throughout the 80s, Romney's game was to use a relatively small amount of cash (which being enormously wealthy from his family may have helped to have) to take out enormous loans for a corporate takeover. He'd take his fee, tell the new board of directors to fire as many people as they could, and then saddle the restructured company with the loan he took out. They had to pay it back, not him, he took his money and had no more use for them.

Does that seem particularly moral to you?
 
Mustachio said:
Throughout the 80s, Romney's game was to use a relatively small amount of cash (which being enormously wealthy from his family may have helped to have) to take out enormous loans for a corporate takeover. He'd take his fee, tell the new board of directors to fire as many people as they could, and then saddle the restructured company with the loan he took out. They had to pay it back, not him, he took his money and had no more use for them.

Does that seem particularly moral to you?
Click to expand...

that is a total misrepresentation of Bain capital and what they do. Ask Staples and its thousands of employees.

I know thats what you have been told by the dem spin machine-------but its a lie.
 
Amigo said:
Send me a link.
Click to expand...

This took literally 1:15 to find. I have never seen a politician on either side who flip flops like Romney. Also, please pay attention to some of the republican candidates criticizing Romney on flip flopping.

 
Bobcat said:
Actually they do, individuals helping others, self reliance, faith in God not government, charity, tolerance, patience, honor, truth, fair justice.
Click to expand...

You can't have self-reliance and individuals helping others and charity. That's just silly.

Bobcat said:
God supports honest, ethical behavior, truth, and honor. those things are not partisan and both parties have been guilty of violating those precepts.
Click to expand...

Then why does he support either political candidate?

Amigo said:
People; God will open the minds of people to vote for the right guy. I know it's hard for progressives to understand, but there is such a thing as good and evil. Romney is good, Obama is evil.
Click to expand...

No there isn't. It's all subjective. Your "right" and my "right" are different, I'm sure.

Amigo said:
If Obama wins, then people didn't listen to God. :lamo
Click to expand...

Oh good, so we've figured out a natural way to cure schizophrenia!
 
Mustachio said:
Throughout the 80s, Romney's game was to use a relatively small amount of cash (which being enormously wealthy from his family may have helped to have) to take out enormous loans for a corporate takeover. He'd take his fee, tell the new board of directors to fire as many people as they could, and then saddle the restructured company with the loan he took out. They had to pay it back, not him, he took his money and had no more use for them.

Does that seem particularly moral to you?
Click to expand...

Do you have a non-partisan link to back that up?
 
Bobcat said:
There is no GOP sponsored voter suppression,
Click to expand...
It has happened before, and incidents are currently being investigated for the current election. How are you so certain?
 
Bobcat said:
Actually they do, individuals helping others, self reliance, faith in God not government, charity, tolerance, patience, honor, truth, fair justice.
Click to expand...

Is that why there is GOP corruption, sex scandals, big government, intolerance towrads gays, lies, wars, corporate welfare. Yep, that's all about JEsus alrighty! :roll:

And no, I'm not saying God is FOR the Dems as a whole either. In fact, I don't think God is political at all which pretty much eliminates a God being FOR a party.

IT's funny though when people try to act as though "God" is on their side and not anyone else's. Glenn Beck is an idiot and those that follow his "sermons" show their lack of intelligence by believing it.
 
Amigo said:
Many people will poo poo this as some crazy right wing religious Glenn Beck type, but I take that as a compliment.

Romney will win because of Divine Providence. :peace
Click to expand...

Weren't you the guy who predicted a Santorum victory many months ago? Sorry... with your track record of predictions, seems to me that your connection to "Divine Providence" is quite weak.
 
Bobcat said:
that is a total misrepresentation of Bain capital and what they do. Ask Staples and its thousands of employees.

I know thats what you have been told by the dem spin machine-------but its a lie.
Click to expand...

It was a fair representation of what Bain did in quite a few cases. Bain was basically playing two games. One was as Mustachio described. They would look for small companies with clean balance sheets that they could lard up with debt and then extract their huge fees, leaving the companies to founder. The other game was the more traditional private equity model of finding good companies that needed cash and helping them grow.
 
Amigo said:
Oh, I forgot that liberals get their "news" from that left wing hack.
Click to expand...

And conservatives get their news from Glenn Beck... right wing hack extraordinaire.
 
Considering that more christians voted for Obama in '08 then McCain, was that divine provenance?

If so, God has a wicked sense of humor.
 
tres borrachos said:
Do you have a non-partisan link to back that up?
Click to expand...

Ha! Do I need to provide a non-partisan link that his name is Mitt? Saying Romney did what I just said he did is not disputed. The manner in which some would describe the business practices of a private equity firm would surely differ. But what Romney did was simple - make money at any cost. Why do you think Romney has so much fun firing people? It means more money for him! And sure, here's a "non-partisan" fact check from the Washington Post and it says what everybody should know. Romney's game was take it, then make it or break it, it didn't matter to him, he was in it for profit, he didn't care if he saddled a company with enormous loans they'd never be able to pay off.

Some might argue that this is just capitalism. You are a player or you get played. It's like a bank, if somebody can't pay the mortgage, their house is taken away. It's not bad, right, they promised they'd pay the loans back! But what if a person is walking through the park one day, and they slip and break their arm. They go to the hospital, have health insurance, but still wind up owing thousands of dollars in medical costs (i have insurance and owe thousands in medical costs myself). They can't afford to pay their mortgage AND pay their medical costs. For a while they put it off, but things boil over, their house is in foreclosure and they still owe thousands for an accident.

Romney is the guy that comes and makes sure to get their keys, because it's his house now. And he smiles brightly and says "too bad it didn't work out, but you knew what you were getting into when you bought the house!" This is Romney's America. Is that a vision of the world that you think Christ would be pleased with?
 
Amigo said:
Many people will poo poo this as some crazy right wing religious Glenn Beck type, but I take that as a compliment.

Romney will win because of Divine Providence. :peace
Click to expand...

This is like if you pray "real hard" he'll win, right?

Silly, down right silly.

But what if Rmoney doesnt win? Something to think about.
 
Romney will win for several reasons:

1. The economy is weak
2. Obama's handling of the Benghazi attacks
3. NO POLL in America has Obama getting 50% in any of the key battleground states
4. Ohio is going Romney
5. Obamacare is still unpopular, with 57% of Americans still supporting repeal
6. Median incomes are down
7. Obama promised to cut the deficit in half, and he doubled it

I can literally create a laundry list pretty long, but mainly, America has witnessed the most negative attack campaign in history, and frankly, people aren't excited about an Obama second term. Look at the turnouts for his latest events. Stevie Wonder came to perform at an event for Obama, and 200 people showed up. Compared to the 35,000 who showed up to see Romney in, where was it? Virginia? Or Pennsylvania? One of those two places.

It's a tight race, but when you take a closer look at polling, CNN, CBS, NBC, Gallup, and NYT are all sampling Dems higher than Republicans, and Obama is still losing by a couple percentage points, and is only tied in a couple others. Rassmussan has Romney up 2 points nationally. I will still predict a 51-47% win for Romney, and the electoral college map shows Romney having 3 plausible routes to victory, and Obama with 3 plausible routes to victory. It's coming down to Ohio, Wisconsin, and Virginia. If Romney wins one of those states, it makes it very difficult for Obama, because Florida and New Hampshire are going Romney.

Here on the eve of the election, I just don't see the enthusiasm for Obama like there was in 08, but I see it for Romney. It will carry him through.
 
spanky said:
Considering that more christians voted for Obama in '08 then McCain, was that divine provenance?

If so, God has a wicked sense of humor.
Click to expand...
Really? that's interesting. You have any proof?
 
Speaking of "Christian" votes......in 08, Obama garnered 50% of the Catholic vote. I'll be willing to bet a year's salary he doesn't do THAT again. My estimate will be 38-40% of Catholics will STILL vote for Obama this time. But not half of them like in 08.

Yet another reason Obama will lose. He hasn't picked up additional support among minorities, he has lost support among white males. He is about the same among women. But he will lose a large chunk of the Catholic vote, bet it.

Remember this, lower turn out favors Romney. Conservatives are fired up this election, we are ALL going to be voting, so if turnout is low, it hurts Obama. All indicators point to a Romney win. Interesting to see what happens.
 
TheNextEra said:
Is that why there is GOP corruption, sex scandals, big government, intolerance towrads gays, lies, wars, corporate welfare. Yep, that's all about JEsus alrighty! :roll:

And no, I'm not saying God is FOR the Dems as a whole either. In fact, I don't think God is political at all which pretty much eliminates a God being FOR a party.

IT's funny though when people try to act as though "God" is on their side and not anyone else's. Glenn Beck is an idiot and those that follow his "sermons" show their lack of intelligence by believing it.
Click to expand...

YOur view of conservatives and republicans is completely wrong. But you are determined to fill this forum with your dem/lib talking points and ignore reality.

What happened to you to make you so angry? Why is the dem party the party of hate and division?
 
AdamT said:
It was a fair representation of what Bain did in quite a few cases. Bain was basically playing two games. One was as Mustachio described. They would look for small companies with clean balance sheets that they could lard up with debt and then extract their huge fees, leaving the companies to founder. The other game was the more traditional private equity model of finding good companies that needed cash and helping them grow.
Click to expand...

We get it, Adam. you voted for obama, you hate every GOP candidate that ever lived. Too bad your state will give its votes to Romney today :lamo
 
Bobcat said:
YOur view of conservatives and republicans is completely wrong. But you are determined to fill this forum with your dem/lib talking points and ignore reality.

What happened to you to make you so angry? Why is the dem party the party of hate and division?
Click to expand...

It's not MY view, it's CONSERVATIVES ACTIONS that speak loudly and clear. Are you saying there have been NO Republican sex scandlas, big government (i.e. homeland security and patriot act), intolerance against gays, lies, or wars EVER done by the Republicans or conservatives?
 
Bobcat said:
We get it, Adam. you voted for obama, you hate every GOP candidate that ever lived. Too bad your state will give its votes to Romney today :lamo
Click to expand...

We get it, Bob. You voted for romney, you hate every Dem candidate that ever lived.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom