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Election Fraud

https://www.google.com/search?q=ohi...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

How the hell does this not ring any alarms? Tagg Romney buying voting machines was bad enough, and now this?

Can someone show me how this isn't concerning?

UPDATE: Those worries about a rigged election were given new urgency today as The Ohio-based Free Press editor-in-chief Robert Fitrakis, also a Green Party candidate for Congress , announced plans to file a lawsuit later today seeking an immediate injunction against Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted and the ES&S manufacturer to halt the use of secretly installed, unauthorized "experimental" software in 39 counties' tabulators in an alleged violation of state election law . His attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, has also referred the case to the Cincinnati FBI for a criminal investigation. Arnebeck says, "It's a flagrant violation of the law. Before you add new software, you need approval of a state board. They are installing an uncertified, suspect software patch that interfaces between the a county's vote tabulation equipment and state tabulators."

He adds, "This is criminal conduct. If they're not doing something wrong, why are they covering it up?"

This is just the beginning, folks (Obama likes "folks"). Hang on to your panties.
 
This is just the beginning, folks (Obama likes "folks"). Hang on to your panties.

He does, but they both do. Kinda silly if you ask me, but I am not one to worry too much about diction.

To be honest electronic voting fraud may well already be widespread, thier insistence on keep source code a secret is what worries me the most, after all your gambling machines tend to have to release the source code to show it isn't cheating, why not the voting machines?
 
He does, but they both do. Kinda silly if you ask me, but I am not one to worry too much about diction.

To be honest electronic voting fraud may well already be widespread, thier insistence on keep source code a secret is what worries me the most, after all your gambling machines tend to have to release the source code to show it isn't cheating, why not the voting machines?

And interestingly, I learned yesterday that what I often experience on gambling machines is, in fact, fraud.

On slot machines that offer special bonus games, one is often given a choice to pick on screen -- like say, one of five "pots of gold." I can't tell you how many times the one I want to pick doesn't select. Even having pressed it two or three times. Only to press it (the one I wanted) one more time and have another one selected -- of course, it's the one that pays the least. ;)
 
To be honest electronic voting fraud may well already be widespread, thier insistence on keep source code a secret is what worries me the most, after all your gambling machines tend to have to release the source code to show it isn't cheating, why not the voting machines?
Yeah... you'd think more people would be talking about it though. Having a bad candidate win an election is one thing, but this sort of fraud is a direct repudiation of democracy. That's much more serious than any single election.
 
This is just the beginning, folks (Obama likes "folks"). Hang on to your panties.

I'm not wearing any panties WHAT DO I DO!?
 
This is just the beginning, folks (Obama likes "folks"). Hang on to your panties.

Remember how a few threads I said that its just 3 more days till the madness ends... and then you said that after that, the voting fraud madness starts.

I guess both you and I were wrong on our timing.
 
Are the dems upset now that there is software that prevents them from fudging the numbers they key in? I don't understand the issue. I prefer we just draw lots and whoever wins gets stoned to death and the other one gets to be President.
 
Are the dems upset now that there is software that prevents them from fudging the numbers they key in? I don't understand the issue. I prefer we just draw lots and whoever wins gets stoned to death and the other one gets to be President.
Is that what the software does? By all means, let's see that source code.
 
Is that what the software does? By all means, let's see that source code.

That was my understanding from one of the articles I read. IT is a patch that allows them to load it onto a zip drive and transmit the results electronically to the state instead of having to read the machines and then key the data in to transmit it.
 
That was my understanding from one of the articles I read. IT is a patch that allows them to load it onto a zip drive and transmit the results electronically to the state instead of having to read the machines and then key the data in to transmit it.

Is there a way of cross referencing the results from the machine to the electronically transmitted results?

A preferably way would be for the voting machine itself to transmit the encrypted voting data real time into an uneditable database that is then cross referenced to a final tally from that machine at the end of voting. Basically remove all chances for people to interfere with the data. The source code for the machine then must be uploaded for public viewing before the election and then uploaded again to cross reference.
 
Is there a way of cross referencing the results from the machine to the electronically transmitted results?

A preferably way would be for the voting machine itself to transmit the encrypted voting data real time into an uneditable database that is then cross referenced to a final tally from that machine at the end of voting. Basically remove all chances for people to interfere with the data. The source code for the machine then must be uploaded for public viewing before the election and then uploaded again to cross reference.

The article did not say but I would assume that the office that loads it onto the zip drive could also access the information to compare to the state results and then perhaps the individual machines during an audit. Personally, I think there is an argument for not releasing the code if it is someone's IP that would be dumped on cheap Chinese next generation machines or would make it easier for people to figure out how to tamper with the machines.
 
Another reason for fingerprint id at the voting booth.
 
Ultimately, in the information age, the only way to insure there is no voting fraud is to make votes public, and published. Anonymously. voting may well be a luxury we cannot afford anymore, but the alternative is a whole other can of worms.
 
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