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Why christians are supporting the mormon

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From time to time, I like to dip my foot into the cesspool that is Foxnews.


While perusing their "opinion" section, i noticed this piece "attacking christians."
It asked the question "Why are evangelicals like Billy Graham and Ralph Reed stumping for Mitt Romney?"

The answer was: politics matters more to them than religion


I was really surprised by this answer. I mean really, i thought "Faith, Family, Freedom" was the mantra. I always thought christians placed their beliefs above ALL, even FAMILY.

Do you agree with the commentator that politics is more important than your religion? It sure seems like it to me. It seems like they are selling out.


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CNN religion blogger attacks Christian Conservatives for supporting Romney | Fox News




Im not really sure where this goes, so ill place it here in the US election section. Move it if you need to
 
Isn't is a good thing for evangelicals to support someone with similar values that isn't from their direct denomination of Christianity?

Should I throw a fit over atheists supporting the (Christian) Obama?
 
digsbe said:
Isn't is a good thing for evangelicals to support someone with similar values that isn't from their direct denomination of Christianity?

Should I throw a fit over atheists supporting the (Christian) Obama?
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Similar ideas? they claim it's a cult like the rest of us.
 
madman said:
Similar ideas? they claim it's a cult like the rest of us.
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Mormons and evangelicals tend to have similar values when it comes to social issues, I don't see it as "selling out" for evangelicals to vote for a Mormon that supports traditional family valoues and is (supposedly) pro-life.
 
digsbe said:
Mormons and evangelicals tend to have similar values when it comes to social issues, I don't see it as "selling out" for evangelicals to vote for a Mormon that supports traditional family valoues and is (supposedly) pro-life.
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"supposedly"

LOL, i like that
 
madman said:
"supposedly"

LOL, i like that
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Romney hasn't been all that strong either way when it comes to being pro-life. Obama only affirmed his ignorant "war on women" bullcrap rhetoric. I think Romney may be pro-life but too spineless to actually do anything about current abortion policy. That's why I say "supposedly."
 
digsbe said:
Romney hasn't been all that strong either way when it comes to being pro-life. Obama only affirmed his ignorant "war on women" bullcrap rhetoric. I think Romney may be pro-life but too spineless to actually do anything about current abortion policy. That's why I say "supposedly."
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Well, i agree with the commentator. I believe they are willing to put their politics before their god. And i believe that is what is happening here. I'd be willing bet if Rmoney was islamic or a agnostic (atheist might be pushing it), they would still vote for him only because it's traditional to vote with the person with the "R" after their name.
When i say traditional to vote, im talking out the speech that comes from the pulpit.
 
Gee...and Muslims are supporting Obama. Look at how far he's bent over the table for them.

...actually...our enemies are supporting Obama too. He bends over just as far for them too.
 
This is possibly the dumbest vanity article I've read in a couple weeks.
 
Because most people shouldn't so stupid as to be single-issue voters. They should look at everything and then make up their minds on what matters to them. If the most important thing to a person is his religion and NOTHING else, then he will vote only based on religion, and that is stupid in a non-theocratic society.
 
Did you expect us to support the Muslim candidate?
 
madman said:
Well, i agree with the commentator. I believe they are willing to put their politics before their god. And i believe that is what is happening here. I'd be willing bet if Rmoney was islamic or a agnostic (atheist might be pushing it), they would still vote for him only because it's traditional to vote with the person with the "R" after their name.
When i say traditional to vote, im talking out the speech that comes from the pulpit.
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Hm..... so if we Christians put God above pragmatic politics we get bashed for trying to create a theocracy.... and if we put pragmatic politics above religious denomination we get bashed for being hypocrits.

Errrum.... :doh
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Gee...and Muslims are supporting Obama. Look at how far he's bent over the table for them.

...actually...our enemies are supporting Obama too. He bends over just as far for them too.
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Of course there are some muslims that support Obama and Rmoney. You do realize the muslims live in the US?
 
Religion is just a tool such as the American flag lapel that politicians like to use to gather votes.
 
Crosscheck said:
Religion is just a tool such as the American flag lapel that politicians like to use to gather votes.
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You're not far wrong. I think most politicians are not really very religious at all, regardless of how much they misrepresent themeselves as devout (whatevers) to garner votes.


I was going to make a comment about "voting for the nominal-Mormon vs the very-nominal-alleged-Christian" but decided not to bother, it is obvious enough.
 
Goshin said:
Hm..... so if we Christians put God above pragmatic politics we get bashed for trying to create a theocracy.... and if we put pragmatic politics above religious denomination we get bashed for being hypocrits.

Errrum.... :doh
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That sounds like a internal problem that christians need to work out. There has been progress from the higher ups (like the pope) but there's still work to be done.
 
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Crosscheck said:
Religion is just a tool such as the American flag lapel that politicians like to use to gather votes.
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That is assuredly true of some politicians, including Obama, who attended a particular church to create a political base. But to say this of Romney, who has lived his faith his entire life, is ridiculous. He hasn't always been a politician, but he has always been LDS.
 
digsbe said:
Isn't is a good thing for evangelicals to support someone with similar values that isn't from their direct denomination of Christianity?

Should I throw a fit over atheists supporting the (Christian) Obama?
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Atheists generally don't throw a fit over the president being Christian -- we've taken it for a granted that any candidate must be Christian in order to be elected and there's simply nothing we can do about it. We do, however, tend to get a little touchy when a president claims we aren't real Americans by virtue of being atheists.
 
nota bene said:
That is assuredly true of some politicians, including Obama, who attended a particular church to create a political base. But to say this of Romney, who has lived his faith his entire life, is ridiculous. He hasn't always been a politician, but he has always been LDS.
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I have know of men who have been priests most of their adult lives and , oh never mind.
 
madman said:
From time to time, I like to dip my foot into the cesspool that is Foxnews.


While perusing their "opinion" section, i noticed this piece "attacking christians."
It asked the question "Why are evangelicals like Billy Graham and Ralph Reed stumping for Mitt Romney?"

The answer was: politics matters more to them than religion


I was really surprised by this answer. I mean really, i thought "Faith, Family, Freedom" was the mantra. I always thought christians placed their beliefs above ALL, even FAMILY.

Do you agree with the commentator that politics is more important than your religion? It sure seems like it to me. It seems like they are selling out.


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CNN religion blogger attacks Christian Conservatives for supporting Romney | Fox News




Im not really sure where this goes, so ill place it here in the US election section. Move it if you need to
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The operative sentence in your whole OP (and reason for posting) is "it seems like to me". Translation...YOU hate the guy and cant see why everyone else doesnt.

You cite the message "faith, family, and freedom". Surely you must have some sort of evidence where this 'cult' based on a belief in Christ takes stands in opposition to those values, for you to have anything resembling an actual point (other than you are 'very liberal' and hate the guy).
 
Goshin said:
Hm..... so if we Christians put God above pragmatic politics we get bashed for trying to create a theocracy.... and if we put pragmatic politics above religious denomination we get bashed for being hypocrits.

Errrum.... :doh
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Yeah, well, that's the bag you've chosen for choosing a set of principles that's based on faith.
 
Crosscheck said:
I have know of men who have been priests most of their adult lives and , oh never mind.
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That's right--never mind. Too bad your intent of making a cheap shot is already manifest.
 
....and here it comes. Uncertain whether or not the Savior will be re-elected, out comes the Mormon card. It is a joke. Do you think the people who would be swayed by it are not the same people who think Obama is a Muslim?
 
VanceMack said:
The operative sentence in your whole OP (and reason for posting) is "it seems like to me". Translation...YOU hate the guy and cant see why everyone else doesnt.

You cite the message "faith, family, and freedom". Surely you must have some sort of evidence where this 'cult' based on a belief in Christ takes stands in opposition to those values, for you to have anything resembling an actual point (other than you are 'very liberal' and hate the guy).
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1. i dont hate anyone
2. all religions are cults.


cult
[kuhlt] Show IPA
noun
1.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.
an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3.
the object of such devotion.
4.
a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5.
Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.



Sorry if that doesn't bode well with your beliefs.
 
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