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The Judge Speaks

Chaddelamancha said:
Yea, this same guy who ignored Libya, also ignored his other responsibilities when it comes to protecting Americans. Sure, tell that to all the dead terrorists.
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Have you noticed the blimp-sized flashing hypocrisy here? When Obama ordered the hit on bin Laden he had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!! It was the brave SEALs who did everything. But when there was a possible failure in assigning security to the Benghazi consulate, IT IS CLEARLY OBAMA'S FAULT AND IT'S BIGGER THAN WATERGATE!!!!

Un be lievable.
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess that is Obama supporter speak for "I cannot rebut her comments"
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Actually thats classic turtledude response to anything he doesnt want to hear...but in this case that is precisely what she is a Fox New Political Hack
 
TurtleDude said:
Great commentary about the complete fail by Obunny

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Nixon steals some papers and he's remembered almost 40-years later, yet Obama leaves US citizens to die in a symbolic witch hunt and democrats brush it off??

I've read articles that said Obama was actually watching this mess in real-time. If that is the truth the man should be charged with treason. Of course Eric Holder doesn't care...

Of course the progressive angle is: "so what, a few US citizens got murdered by a regime we set up." To them it will always will be "so what" on any and every issue and criminal act their dear leader commits..

The best part is they try to blame it on a video...
 
Mr.Nick said:
Nixon steals some papers and he's remembered almost 40-years later, yet Obama leaves US citizens to die in a symbolic witch hunt and democrats brush it off??

I've read articles that said Obama was actually watching this mess in real-time. If that is the truth the man should be charged with treason. Of course Eric Holder doesn't care...

Of course the progressive angle is: "so what, a few US citizens got murdered by a regime we set up." To them it will always will be "so what" on any and every issue and criminal act their dear leader commits..

The best part is they try to blame it on a video...
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The accusations against Nixon were proven over the course of a long, painstaking investigation. In Obama's case you Benghaziers are simply rushing to justice based on groundless speculation in order to beat a Nov. 6 deadline.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Sure, let's just discount everything else he has done against the terrorist and discount him for this.
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I don't discount everything he has done against the terrorists...but I do see this Benghazi event as an example of him not being able to adequately react to a crisis.
 
Mycroft said:
I don't discount everything he has done against the terrorists...but I do see this Benghazi event as an example of him not being able to adequately react to a crisis.
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He seemed to react to Hurricane Sandy adequately enough. At least according to Gov. Christie.
 
You know, I feel like the Obama administration may have made some mistakes, possibly even serious stuff. However Fox news, the right in general, has gone so pure psycho overboard OBAMA LIED SEALS DIED OMG WATERGATE BENGAZIGATE MONSTERGATE DEATHGATE OMG OMG OMG HE LIED HE KILLED OUR BRAVE MEN. You know this has turned it into this frothing circus in which I don't trust anything the right says about it. I don't trust anything the Obama administration says either, with the upcoming election of course.

So I'm left with nothing but questions about what the real deal is, can't trust anyone.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
He seemed to react to Hurricane Sandy adequately enough. At least according to Gov. Christie.
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So what? Doesn't make him a good President...all things considered.
 
Hurricane Sandy and the Benghazi incident are 2 different things.

First off.

The preparations for Sandy were made mostly by state officials at state level, not federal officials at federal level.
The military is an exclusively federal business and so is foreign affairs.

Secondly, even if there was info about the attack at the white house, it doesn't mean that Obama (personally) was aware of it. He could have just not been giving a **** and had better things to do, like planning his campaigning. He has given the american people ample evidence of just how little he really cares about things that he got elected on.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Neither, but nice try. Does Obama deserve the blame for Benghazi? No, but he does deserve the criticism for hiring the people who mishandled Benghazi.
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He should come clean with the American people for all the misinformation that has been doled out in response to this tragedy.

There are only TWO possibilities here - either he is covering up his own malfeasance and just wants to get past the election before allowing any information to become public (thank you MSM for not being inquisitive)

OR - he was seriously stabbed in the back by someone high up in his administration by giving him baloney for information and not informing him of the actual situation on the ground. If this is the case then someone should be summarily FIRED immediately and he should hold a press conference immediately to inform the American people of what went wrong in his admin.

He is doing neither of the proper responses - so he is covering up SOMETHING until after the election.

And he would not be able to get away with this if he were a GOP POTUS. The media would hound him from pillar to post with non-stop demands for an explanation. Scores of investigative teams would be scouring his garbage = almost as eagerly as they did Sarah Palin's = The would be running headlines in the NYT = they would be running Special Reports hourly on the status of the coverup.

Nothing is happening here because of media complicity in the coverup. Nobody can honestly think the media would be this disinterested if if were a GOP in office. Look what they did with the 'haircut' incident forty years ago.
 
TurtleDude said:
He's the man in charge He's responsible. You can weasel and deny all you want but the fact is

OBAMA DENIED AND OUR SEALS DIED
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Funny, they weren't so forgiving when Bush was President. What do you expect from hacks?
 
Verax said:
You know, I feel like the Obama administration may have made some mistakes, possibly even serious stuff. However Fox news, the right in general, has gone so pure psycho overboard OBAMA LIED SEALS DIED OMG WATERGATE BENGAZIGATE MONSTERGATE DEATHGATE OMG OMG OMG HE LIED HE KILLED OUR BRAVE MEN. You know this has turned it into this frothing circus in which I don't trust anything the right says about it. I don't trust anything the Obama administration says either, with the upcoming election of course.

So I'm left with nothing but questions about what the real deal is, can't trust anyone.
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It sure would be nice if we had an independent investigative arm that was charged with getting information about current events and reporting this information to the American public without bias or political agenda of their own. Something along the lines of "all the news that is fit for print" is a motto for such a profession.

If only such a profession existed, we could look forward to thousands of people with a vested interest in actually finding out any instance of corruption, malfeasance, cover-up, or cronyism by governmental entities.

I wonder why we don't have one of those organizations. We should not have to listen to political pundits with a political agenda of controlling the information released to the public. These political entities cannot be trusted when they have done something wrong or who have a vested interest in continuing a harmful policy.

There is even something in the first amendment about protecting the rights of such an organization = but it doesn't seem to exist anymore - except when there is a GOP administration.
 
Mycroft said:
So what? Doesn't make him a good President...all things considered.
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You're the one show stated he couldn't properly react to a crisis. I provided an example where he did.
 
nota bene said:
That's not what he said. The fact is that Fox News has insistently covered Benghazi since the beginning while other news outlets chose not to. It's true that CBS and now ABC are tentatively reporting a bit, but whether you like Fox or don't or think it's biased or don't, it has been consistently going after the news on this.
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The reason FOX has been on this is because the people inside that want the truth out are ONLY talking/leaking to FOX.

They trust FOX to get the truth out.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
You're the one show stated he couldn't properly react to a crisis. I provided an example where he did.
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To be more precise, I said "but I do see this Benghazi event as an example of him not being able to adequately react to a crisis." Do you see the distinction? I didn't say he couldn't...I said the Benghazi incident is an example of him not being able.
 
Mycroft said:
To be more precise, I said "but I do see this Benghazi event as an example of him not being able to adequately react to a crisis." Do you see the distinction? I didn't say he couldn't...I said the Benghazi incident is an example of him not being able.
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But you don't know what happened in Benghazi, so you are, of necessity, talking out of your ass.
 
AdamT said:
What an incredibly stupid comment. Everyone cares about the lives that were lost. But everyone doesn't want to cheapen them by turning their deaths into pathetic political theater.
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Agreed, not everyone. Just the Left.
 
AdamT said:
But you don't know what happened in Benghazi, so you are, of necessity, talking out of your ass.
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That's why I'm asking questions...something most lefties refuse to do in favor of deflection.

Anyway, there is a pretty good timeline of events as well as continuously changing information and explanations from the Obama administration that certainly does raise a lot of questions that aren't being answered by the Obama team. It seems they would rather do anything they can to cloud the waters...until after the election, I suspect.
 
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