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Exclusive: Classified cable warned consulate couldn't withstand 'coordinated attack'

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Exclusive: Classified cable warned consulate couldn't withstand 'coordinated attack' | Fox News

The U.S. Mission in Benghazi convened an “emergency meeting” less than a month before the assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, because Al Qaeda had training camps in Benghazi and the consulate could not defend against a “coordinated attack,” according to a classified cable reviewed by Fox News.
Summarizing an Aug. 15 emergency meeting convened by the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Aug. 16 cable marked “SECRET” said that the State Department’s senior security officer, also known as the RSO, did not believe the consulate could be protected.
“RSO (Regional Security Officer) expressed concerns with the ability to defend Post in the event of a coordinated attack due to limited manpower, security measures, weapons capabilities, host nation support, and the overall size of the compound,” the cable said.
According to a review of the cable addressed to the Office of the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the Emergency Action Committee was also briefed "on the location of approximately ten Islamist militias and AQ training camps within Benghazi … these groups ran the spectrum from Islamist militias, such as the QRF Brigade and Ansar al-Sharia, to ‘Takfirist thugs.’” Each U.S. mission has a so-called Emergency Action Committee that is responsible for security measures and emergency planning.
This is not going away. More stuff is coming out on this. The Administration was negligent to say the least in handling this situation in Benghazi.
 
I hope this doesn't go away. Even after the election, regardless of who wins.
 
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I hope this doesn't go away. Even after the election, regardless of who wins.

Agreed. If after the election it all of a sudden becomes not so important I am going to be more than a little pissed. Procedures need to change.
 
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Does Fox have a security clearence?
 
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A number of other Libyans were named as privately talking to US officials, some of whom were providing intelligence. Their names are now available to anyone who wants them.

In a worst-case scenario, that could lead to their targeting by the same sorts of people who attacked the Benghazi consulate. But well short of that, it sends a message to every Libyan that if they talk to US officials, their private conversations could soon end up on the Internet for all to see.

Assange's WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables spread over the internet - apparently bad.

Leaked diplomatic cables leading up to the events in Benghazi in September - apparently ok?

Really?
 
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We still have consulates all over the world, maybe, if Fox tries hard enough maybe it will happen again, then they have that much more hysteria for the...oh well.
Assange's WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables spread over the internet - apparently bad.

Leaked diplomatic cables leading up to the events in Benghazi in September - apparently ok?

Really?
 
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Assange's WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables spread over the internet - apparently bad.

Leaked diplomatic cables leading up to the events in Benghazi in September - apparently ok?

Really?

Right if you're going to want to crucify someone for using classified leaks, condemn what he's doing as not real journalism, then why is it OK to engage in the same behavior yourself? O wait its politics.

That being said there may be a critical difference, Assange sought after classified material, whereas Fox is simply picking up when its already out in the open. There's a thin-line but its a very important one, the role of the News is to report the news and whether this cable, if that's all there is to it and not more, is actually news or a great way to get ratings is debatable but either way once it's out there its out there. Heck by all of us talking about it and keeping this topic alive we are contributing to the spread of this classified material. Its a tricky moral situation, but one thing is for sure is that its the role of government to protect its sensitive information and not let it leak out, if that had happened in the first place this issue of a leak obviously wouldn't be an issue at all.
 
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Assange is not an American citizen, it is impossible for him to be disloyal. Fox on the other hand is suppose to be fair and balanced and informing all the (RWers) great Americans about what to think. I think Fox makes up a lot of stuff.
Right if you're going to want to crucify someone for using classified leaks, condemn what he's doing as not real journalism, then why is it OK to engage in the same behavior yourself? O wait its politics.

That being said there may be a critical difference, Assange sought after classified material, whereas Fox is simply picking up when its already out in the open. There's a thin-line but its a very important one, the role of the News is to report the news and whether this cable, if that's all there is to it and not more, is actually news or a great way to get ratings is debatable but either way once it's out there its out there. Heck by all of us talking about it and keeping this topic alive we are contributing to the spread of this classified material. Its a tricky moral situation, but one thing is for sure is that its the role of government to protect its sensitive information and not let it leak out, if that had happened in the first place this issue of a leak obviously wouldn't be an issue at all.
 
Re: Exclusive: Classified cable warned consulate couldn't withstand 'coordinated atta

Assange's WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables spread over the internet - apparently bad.

Leaked diplomatic cables leading up to the events in Benghazi in September - apparently ok?

Really?

The Benghazi assault has already happened. Therein lies the difference.
 
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Assange's WikiLeaks US diplomatic cables spread over the internet - apparently bad.

Leaked diplomatic cables leading up to the events in Benghazi in September - apparently ok?

Really?

Wouldn't be the first time this administration has leaked classified info. The more interesting part is who is leaking this and why? The plot be thickening.....
 
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The Benghazi assault has already happened. Therein lies the difference.

So it's ok for classified cables to just be randomly released just because Benghazi happened? I don't know if you have ever held a security clearance but I have. Top Secret SCI, and whomever released these did NOT have the proper authority to do so.

I don't have sympathy for that puke grunt that did it a few years back and I don't have sympathy for whomever did it this time. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the federal law and sent to prison.

Amazing how some will excuse this just because it may hurt Obama.
 
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So it's ok for classified cables to just be randomly released just because Benghazi happened? I don't know if you have ever held a security clearance but I have. Top Secret SCI, and whomever released these did NOT have the proper authority to do so.

I don't have sympathy for that puke grunt that did it a few years back and I don't have sympathy for whomever did it this time. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the federal law and sent to prison.

Amazing how some will excuse this just because it may hurt Obama.

Nope, I never said that. But, I know that doesn't matter to you.

Amazing gow people get all stirred up when Obama looks bad.
 
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Nope, I never said that. But, I know that doesn't matter to you.

Amazing gow people get all stirred up when Obama looks bad.

Funny, I don't see your comments condemning the leak. Why is that?
 
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Funny, I don't see your comments condemning the leak. Why is that?

I was waiting for you to tell me what I was saying. ;)
 
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I agree, Manning is a traitor, if not legally he is in reality. Whoever, if anyone is, leaking to Fox, is just as much of a traitor. This makes Fox exactly like Assange. It is the Obama hate disorder that makes them forget they are Americans.
So it's ok for classified cables to just be randomly released just because Benghazi happened? I don't know if you have ever held a security clearance but I have. Top Secret SCI, and whomever released these did NOT have the proper authority to do so.

I don't have sympathy for that puke grunt that did it a few years back and I don't have sympathy for whomever did it this time. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the federal law and sent to prison.

Amazing how some will excuse this just because it may hurt Obama.
 
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Does Fox have a security clearence?

No, they just do their jobs. Unlike the other media outlets, who lick Obama's boots, and get chills up and down their legs everytime the man speaks!

You know what the role of journalists are in this country? Obviously not....Journalism died in America 4 years ago, when they fell in love with a manchild. Thank God for FOX!!!!

NO WONDER THEY'RE #1!!!!!!
 
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So it's ok for classified cables to just be randomly released just because Benghazi happened? I don't know if you have ever held a security clearance but I have. Top Secret SCI, and whomever released these did NOT have the proper authority to do so.

I don't have sympathy for that puke grunt that did it a few years back and I don't have sympathy for whomever did it this time. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the federal law and sent to prison.

Amazing how some will excuse this just because it may hurt Obama.

LOL....prosecute away Addicus Finch! The story isn't "who" released the cables, the story is "what" is in the cables! It implicates the Obama administration even further. They were not only negligent, but they've covered it up! And to you, the story is "who released this stuff", and not "look at what this cable exposes".

Hackery at its finest.....kudos.
 
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No, they just do their jobs. Unlike the other media outlets, who lick Obama's boots, and get chills up and down their legs everytime the man speaks!

You know what the role of journalists are in this country? Obviously not....Journalism died in America 4 years ago, when they fell in love with a manchild. Thank God for FOX!!!!

NO WONDER THEY'RE #1!!!!!!

Ah another conservative that doesn't care that classified information was released to Fox News as long as it hurts Obama.
 
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Funny, I don't see your comments condemning the leak. Why is that?

Because the bigger story is "what" is in the cable.....not "who" released it!

One story takes priority over another.....hard to understand that concept I'm sure, but that's your answer.
 
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LOL....prosecute away Addicus Finch! The story isn't "who" released the cables, the story is "what" is in the cables! It implicates the Obama administration even further. They were not only negligent, but they've covered it up! And to you, the story is "who released this stuff", and not "look at what this cable exposes".

Hackery at its finest.....kudos.

Hackery is approving of classified information being leaked as long as it hurts an opponent. You've demonstrated that hackery in your comments quite clearly.
 
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Because the bigger story is "what" is in the cable.....not "who" released it!

One story takes priority over another.....hard to understand that concept I'm sure, but that's your answer.

So it's ok to you if one does something illegal as long as it hurts an opponent. Got it thanks for your clarification on the issue.
 
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Yeah, and what is the big revelation? What do we know now, as a result of this security breach, that we didn't know before? Basically nothing.
 
Re: Exclusive: Classified cable warned consulate couldn't withstand 'coordinated atta

Because the bigger story is "what" is in the cable.....not "who" released it!

One story takes priority over another.....hard to understand that concept I'm sure, but that's your answer.

No it doesn't take priority over another except to partisan hacks. BOTH are problems, but you excuse one as long as it hurts Obama. Thanks for your clarification.
 
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Oh, btw, it's a great relief to me that there is FINALLY a twenty-third thread about Benghazi. Great job, mods.
 
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