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Romney runs on most vague platform in modern history

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I'm quoting a post made by someone by the handle of "outlandish" at the Huffington Post. It's written by a regular reader, not by a staff writer:

outlandish

As we close in on Election Day, the questions about what Mitt Romney would do if elected grow even larger. Rarely before in American history has a candidate for president campaigned on such a blank slate.
Yet, paradoxically, not a day goes by that we don’t hear Romney, or some other exponent of the GOP, claim that businesses aren’t creating more jobs because they’re uncertain about the future. And the source of that uncertainty, they say, is President Obama — especially his Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and the Dodd-Frank Act, and uncertainties surrounding Obama’s plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.
In fact, Romney has created far more uncertainty. He offers a virtual question mark of an economy
For example, Romney says if elected he’ll repeal Obamacare and replace it with something else. He promises he’ll provide health coverage to people with pre-existing medical problems but he doesn’t give a hint how he’d manage it.
Insurance companies won’t pay the higher costs of insuring these people unless they have extra funds — which is why Obamacare requires that everyone, including healthy young people, buy insurance. Yet Romney doesn’t say where the extra money to fund insurers would come from. From taxpayers? Businesses?
Talk about uncertainty.
Romney also promises to repeal Dodd-Frank, but here again he’s mum on what he’d replace with. Yet without some sort of new regulation of Wall Street we’re back to where we were before 2008 when Wall Street crashed and brought most of the rest of us down with it.
Romney hasn’t provided a clue how he proposes to oversee the biggest banks absent Dodd-Frank, what kind of capital requirements he’d require of them, and what mechanism he’d use to put them through an orderly bankruptcy that wouldn’t risk the rest of the Street. All we get is a big question mark.
When it comes to how Romney would pay for the giant $5 trillion tax cut he proposes, mostly for the rich, he takes uncertainty to a new level of abject wonderment. “We’ll work with Congress,” is his response.
He says he’ll limit loopholes and deductions that could be used by the wealthy, but refuses to be specific. Several weeks ago Romney said he’d cap total deductions at $17,000 a year. Days later, the figure became $25,000. Now it’s up in the air. “Pick a figure,” he now says.
Make no mistake. Wall Street traders and corporate CEOs are supporting Romney not because of the new level of certainty he promises but because Romney promises to lower their taxes.

I found this well written and insightful. In short, a Romney presidency is a wild gamble with America's future.
 
I'm quoting a post made by someone by the handle of "outlandish" at the Huffington Post. It's written by a regular reader, not by a staff writer:



I found this well written and insightful. In short, a Romney presidency is a wild gamble with America's future.


I saw the title to this thread and was amazed that the site owner had such influence.

Right after that, I realized I'm dyslexic.
 
What isn't vague is that he will cut taxes on Paris Hilton and raise taxes on working people (the irreponsible 47%). He said he would and I believe him
 
What isn't vague is that he will cut taxes on Paris Hilton and raise taxes on working people (the irreponsible 47%). He said he would and I believe him

You're right about that. What's vague is he says he'll make up the shortfall by closing tax loopholes, but he won't say which ones. It's essentially miracle math because the numbers don't add up. Math is a rational subject. It's not a creative anything goes thing. If you spend more than is in your checking account, you can't do some creative writing that will make the numbers magically work.
 
What isn't vague is that he will cut taxes on Paris Hilton and raise taxes on working people (the irreponsible 47%). He said he would and I believe him

I guess you'll have to start paying.
 
Romney has no reason to reveal his plans. We are the little people and he expects us to follow his lead.

"If God did not want them sheared why did he make them sheep." (movie quote)

Not that Romney is god but the principles the same.
 
I guess you'll have to start paying.

I guess you'll have to keep avoiding the topic and engaging in personal attacks, because you can't prevail on the merits. I see that a lot with conservatives.
 
You're right about that. What's vague is he says he'll make up the shortfall by closing tax loopholes, but he won't say which ones. It's essentially miracle math because the numbers don't add up. Math is a rational subject. It's not a creative anything goes thing. If you spend more than is in your checking account, you can't do some creative writing that will make the numbers magically work.

Because of AMT, the top brackets already only have a few deductions, and the biggest is the charitable deduction, which I can't believe he would eliminate (there would be a rebellion by churches!)

So his entire plan is a fake. He is proposing to lower taxes on the rich and cut deductions -- i.e., to raise taxes on working people. Helluvaplan.
 
What isn't vague is that he will cut taxes on Paris Hilton and raise taxes on working people (the irreponsible 47%). He said he would and I believe him

Imagine how much more money she could blow if she paid less taxes.
 
yeah, his platform doesn't have that "solid, I know what this means" ring to it, like Hope and Change.
 
It's not a good idea to say "Most in history". Andrew Jackson didn't have much of a platform in 1824. John Kerry wasn't so clear...

I mean, I get it. It's great red meat for liberals reading the Huffington Post, but it's just ridiculous.
 
Vague?
It's a five point plan, what could be clearer
Romney’s 5 point plan:
1). Energy: Achieve energy independence on this continent by 2020.
2). Trade: Trade that works for America.
3). Education: Provide Americans with the skills to succeed through better public schools,
better access to higher education, and better retraining programs that help to match unemployed workers with real-world job opportunities.
4). Cut Spending: Cut the deficit, reducing the size of government and getting the national debt under control so that America remains a place
where businesses want to open up shop and hire.
5). Small Business: Champion small business. Small businesses are the engine of job creation in this country, but they will struggle to succeed
if taxes and regulations are too burdensome or if a government in Washington does its best to stifle them.

McCain had one too.
McCains 5 point plan
1). Trade: I will open new markets to our goods and services. My opponent will close them.
2). Cut Spending: I will cut government spending. He will increase it.
3). Education : education is the civil rights issue of this century. Equal access to public education has been gained, but what is the value of access to a failing school? We need to shake up failed school bureaucracies with competition, empower parents with choice.
4). Small Business: We all know that keeping taxes low helps small businesses grow and create new jobs.
5). Energy: we’ll attack the problem on every front. We’ll produce more energy at home. We will drill new wells off-shore, and we’ll drill them now. We’ll drill them now.

So did Bush
Bush's 5 point plan
1).Cut Spending: restraining federal spending, reducing regulation and making the tax relief permanent.
2).Energy: we will make our country less dependent on foreign sources of energy.
3) Trade: will expand trade and level the playing field to sell American goods and services across the globe.
4) Small Business: And we must protect small-business owners and workers from the explosion of frivolous lawsuits that threaten jobs across our country.
5) Tax Code:Another drag on our economy is the current tax code, which is a complicated mess
 
How sad is it that Obama is neck and neck with a guy with no alleged platform :lamo (BTW pundits don't see that Obama has had one either other than I'm not Mitt)
 
How sad is it that Obama is neck and neck with a guy with no alleged platform :lamo (BTW pundits don't see that Obama has had one either other than I'm not Mitt)

It is indeed a sad commentary on the gullibility of voters that they would even consider a boob like Romney.
 
Vague?
It's a five point plan, what could be clearer
Romney’s 5 point plan:
1). Energy: Achieve energy independence on this continent by 2020.

A meaningless term in a global economy with a global oil market, but don't let that stop Romney.

2). Trade: Trade that works for America.
Meaningless, especially coming from a guy who made his living shipping jobs overseas.

3). Education: Provide Americans with the skills to succeed through better public schools,
better access to higher education, and better retraining programs that help to match unemployed workers with real-world job opportunities.

Counterfactual. Romney's policies will decimate public schools.

4). Cut Spending: Cut the deficit, reducing the size of government and getting the national debt under control so that America remains a place
where businesses want to open up shop and hire.

He's lying -- his plan calls for a bigger deficit while decimating investing in longterm growth.

5). Small Business: Champion small business. Small businesses are the engine of job creation in this country, but they will struggle to succeed
if taxes and regulations are too burdensome or if a government in Washington does its best to stifle them.

Romney, like all conservatives, define small business any LLC, even if it's owned by a centimillionaire like himself.
 
It is indeed a sad commentary on the gullibility of voters that they would even consider a boob like Romney.

We are all gullible. I just think it is funny when people try to pretend they are not.
 
I guess you didn't like McCain's or Bush's plans either. :)


A meaningless term in a global economy with a global oil market, but don't let that stop Romney.

Meaningless, especially coming from a guy who made his living shipping jobs overseas.



Counterfactual. Romney's policies will decimate public schools.



He's lying -- his plan calls for a bigger deficit while decimating investing in longterm growth.



Romney, like all conservatives, define small business any LLC, even if it's owned by a centimillionaire like himself.
 
"We've come too far to have a plan now...FORWARD."
 
I guess you didn't like McCain's or Bush's plans either. :)

Well, we know the outcome of Bush's plan -- a total economic meltdown. Romney is planning Meltdown II.
 
We are all gullible. I just think it is funny when people try to pretend they are not.

I'm not gullible enought to believe Romney when he says he'll cut nonexistent deductions from his rich buddies, no.
 
Well, we know the outcome of Bush's plan -- a total economic meltdown. Romney is planning Meltdown II.

The point I was trying to make was that all three are the same plan
 
No your confusing Romney with Obama in 2008
 
Romney runs on most vague platform in modern history

It is a far sight deeper than:

Yes We Can.
Change You Can Believe In.
We are the ones we have been waiting for.
Hope. Change.
Fundamentally change America.

All hollow vessels.

Interesting too, that Obama revealed a "plan" after three debates and with 2 weeks left in the election... and after not even trying to defend his miserable economic record in the debates.
That's beyond vague.

But hey... Leftists will believe anything. That's why socialists get votes. But there are far fewer suckers the second time around.
 
It is a far sight deeper than:

Yes We Can.
Change You Can Believe In.
We are the ones we have been waiting for.

Interesting too, that Obama revealed a "plan" after three debates and with 2 weeks left in the election.

But hey... Leftists will believe anything. That's why socialists get votes. But there are far fewer suckers the second time around.

His campaign is actually on par with that, not substantially better. He's a flip flopper, a waffler, a man with no conviction.
 
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