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MITT ROMNEY: It's 'Immoral' To Borrow Money For Disaster Relief

AdamT said:
Providing disaster relief is unconstitutional?
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You said a roof over peoples' heads. that can mean several things
 
Fisher said:
Desperate much? he just thinks when we have disasters we should cut somewhere else to pay for it before we take on more long-term debt. Or we could just print up a bunch of fresh Benjamins since that seems to be FU'd policy people who won't admit we need to spend less take like it has no negative effects whatsoever.

Re-prioritizing is what people do in their day to day lives all the time. BFD
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He didn't say that though:
“FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role,” Mr. King said. “How do you deal with something like that?”

Romney’s response: “Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better.

“Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut – we should ask ourselves the opposite question,” Romney continued. “What should we keep? We should take all of what we're doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we're doing that we don't have to do? And those things we've got to stop doing, because we're borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we're taking in. We cannot ...”

King interjected: “Including disaster relief, though?”

Romney replied: “We cannot – we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all.”“FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role,” Mr. King said. “How do you deal with something like that?”
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Dec...1030/Did-Mitt-Romney-suggest-eliminating-FEMA
 
All the Super-pacs can donate their remaining funds to the disaster.
 
AdamT said:
In essence that is exactly what he said. We should not increase the deficit to pay for disaster relief. That leaves only two options: don't pay for disaster relief, or cut other programs to pay for it.
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What should we keep? That was how he phrased it and he sounded willing to cut FEMA, he laid out the plan for how he would do it, send it back to the states or the private sector. Then he reiterated it at the end of the quoted statement: states should take on more of a role.

I'm sorry I have to disagree Adam. I will stipulate, he didn't want to increase the deficit to pay for it, but he put FEMA on the block.
 
Gina said:
What should we keep? That was how he phrased it and he sounded willing to cut FEMA, he laid out the plan for how he would do it, send it back to the states or the private sector. Then he reiterated it at the end of the quoted statement: states should take on more of a role.

I'm sorry I have to disagree Adam. I will stipulate, he didn't want to increase the deficit to pay for it, but he put FEMA on the block.
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Sending it to the states or privatizing it doesn't imply cutting federal funding for it; it just implies sending the money to someone else to do the job instead of having the feds do it. At least that's how I understood it in context.
 
stophe said:
Maybe it's the government's to make sure those making one million pay more in proportion than those making 30,000. After all they all benefit equally from government services. And yes there is such a thing as corporate welfare.
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So you advocate a flat tax. So do the Republicans.

There is no corporate "welfare". Corporations have been granted subsidies by our government for years. Don't like it? Lobby your Congress critter to change that.
 
AdamT said:
In essence that is exactly what he said. We should not increase the deficit to pay for disaster relief. That leaves only two options: don't pay for disaster relief, or cut other programs to pay for it.
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And you really don't know after all this time that option #2 is exactly what he advocates?
 
Muddy Creek said:
ROMNEY: Disaster Relief Borrowing 'Immoral' - Business Insider



And he refused to answer the question in Ohio today.

So, I guess that means for all you southern republicans who get floods and hurricanes and tornados and freezing rain, start borrowing from your retirement to clean up your own dang mess if Romney gets in. No more small interest loans from the Federal government. Get a 25% loan from the banks.
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I notice that good old Mitt has no problems with people borrowing money to speculate on the casino, oooops sorry, I meant Stock market.
 
tres borrachos said:
So you advocate a flat tax. So do the Republicans.

There is no corporate "welfare". Corporations have been granted subsidies by our government for years. Don't like it? Lobby your Congress critter to change that.
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Have you ever tried to even get your local senator on the phone?

You live in a fascist Corpocracy. Slaves cant lobby

Lobby your COngress - lol
 
Klown said:
Have you ever tried to even get your local senator on the phone?

You live in a fascist Corpocracy. Slaves cant lobby

Lobby your COngress - lol
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I've spoken to my Senator and my Congressman. And their offices. Many times.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
If we didn't waste money on war, negligence, and other stupid things, we would never need to use the credit card for disaster relief. It's a moot point.
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War is constitional FEMA is not. Also FEMA is terrible inefficient it takes money from the states and then doles it back to the states as it sees fit but how can a D.C buericrat know the needs of an area better than the local government? Disaster relief is more efficient when left to states and constitutional for them to do under the tenth amendment.
 
So Romney didn't specifically single out Disaster relief, and basically said the same general thing Obama said in 2008 swapping out irresponsible and unpatriotic for immoral.

Tell me again why I should be up at arms for Romney's statement and support Obama again?
 
tres borrachos said:
I've spoken to my Senator and my Congressman. And their offices. Many times.
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Did you lobby them?

lol

Are you aware that there are over 500 professional full time lobbyists acting on behalf of the health insurance industry alone? Thats about one lobbyist per Senator in the US COngress. Imagine the ratio from the banking and financing sectors and I cannot even begin thinking about the nuclear power and military industrial complex

And you managed to speak with your senator once or twice

Congratulations - hope the lobbying went well. I am certain he would consider your opinion over that of his corporate masters

Keep up the great work
 
Klown said:
Did you lobby them?

lol

Are you aware that there are over 500 professional full time lobbyists acting on behalf of the health insurance industry alone? Thats about one lobbyist per Senator in the US COngress. Imagine the ratio from the banking and financing sectors and I cannot even begin thinking about the nuclear power and military industrial complex

And you managed to speak with your senator once or twice

Congratulations - hope the lobbying went well. I am certain he would consider your opinion over that of his corporate masters

Keep up the great work
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I didn't lobby them to change their stance on subsidies because I'm not a dope who buys into the Democratic propoganda that it's "welfare".

I actually never lobbied them for anything. I asked them why they voted on certain things, and gave my voice on other things.

I spoke to my Senator more than "once or twice" but that's typical of you Libs, making things up that aren't posted.

Your desperation is showing.
 
YoungConserv said:
War is constitional FEMA is not. Also FEMA is terrible inefficient it takes money from the states and then doles it back to the states as it sees fit but how can a D.C buericrat know the needs of an area better than the local government? Disaster relief is more efficient when left to states and constitutional for them to do under the tenth amendment.
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I'd have no problem with it being state controlled. Not sure why that was directed at me.
 
tres borrachos said:
I didn't lobby them to change their stance on subsidies because I'm not a dope who buys into the Democratic propoganda that it's "welfare".

I actually never lobbied them for anything. I asked them why they voted on certain things, and gave my voice on other things.

I spoke to my Senator more than "once or twice" but that's typical of you Libs, making things up that aren't posted.

Your desperation is showing.
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I see

So you spin out advise to others that they should lobby their Congress members, but when you get a chance to speak to your senator, you have a superficial chit chat about nonsense

You seem to be a very efficient user of your time and energy

Congratulations
 
Klown said:
I see

So you spin out advise to others that they should lobby their Congress members, but when you get a chance to speak to your senator, you have a superficial chit chat about nonsense

You seem to be a very efficient user of your time and energy

Congratulations
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Another Liberal who lies. What is it with you guys?

Tell me about my conversations with my Senator, since you claim to know about them. When were they, in what context, and what was said between us? I'll wait.
 
tres borrachos said:
Another Liberal who lies. What is it with you guys?

Tell me about my conversations with my Senator, since you claim to know about them. When were they, in what context, and what was said between us? I'll wait.
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we dont have what you call "Liberals" in Australia

Typical Conservative, doesnt know what the word conservative actually means, and believes that the human population on the planet is about 300 million - ALL US CITIZENS

You should get out more
 
Muddy Creek said:
So, I guess that means for all you southern republicans who get floods and hurricanes and tornados and freezing rain, start borrowing from your retirement to clean up your own dang mess if Romney gets in. No more small interest loans from the Federal government. Get a 25% loan from the banks.
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I'm guessing either you have no children, or simply don't care about their future. Which is it?
 
Klown said:
we dont have what you call "Liberals" in Australia

Typical Conservative, doesnt know what the word conservative actually means, and believes that the human population on the planet is about 300 million - ALL US CITIZENS

You should get out more
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So you don't even live here and have a Senator? Then why am I explaining myself to you?

But thanks for admitting you have no clue what I talked to my Senator about. Next time be careful before making things up. I always call out liars.
 
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