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War on Women?

ThePlayDrive said:
Of course (some) men have a "dog in the fight." But who gets pregnant? Who gets the abortion? The woman does and therefore, those issues are unique to women in a particular and undeniable way. I hope you aren't implying that pregnancy and abortion affect men as much as they do women?
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I am very pro-choice, but men do have a dog in the fight.
 
joko104 said:
The strategy of declaring that the Republicans have a "War On Women" appears to be backfiring. Personally, I think overall what I see as the extreme and entrenced bigotries of old Democrats is backfiring as is the tactics of division overall, dividing people into opposing camps on:

Race
Religion
Economic class
Age
Gender
Geographic location

The "War of Women" claim by Democrats is grotesquely sexist.
1. The attitude is that women are only a collection of reproductive parts for which they need Democrats to protect them against unwanted pregnancies Republicans want to force on them - and that all the other issues - economy and foreign policy - are the men's issues.
2. That abortion and contraceptions are only "womens" issues and of no interest to men.
To try to make the election women versus men.

Nationally, Obama has gone from a 14% lead among women voters to a 0% lead. You'd think they'd have figured out by now that the strategy isn't working, rather than doubling down on it.
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Overall - I'm sick and tired of the genders being used as a generalized battering ram against the other - other gender, other party, etc . . .

I'm tired of being scooped up into a 'voter block' or a 'anti-feminist-belief-platform' and what not only to cater to bantering and ploys for votes and support.

**** off!
 
iguanaman said:
Only women are raped and impregnated so I'de say that issue is 100% female. Men should have zero say in what a women wants to do with a rapist induced pregnancy.
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If you think all people who oppose abortions are men and all people who support legalized abortion are women you are very mistaken.

It is the phrase "war on women" that annoys. I don't hear pro-life Republicans declaring Democrats have a "War against Children" or "War against Fathers" or other off-point sloganism of used the worked-to-death "War On ______________."
 
joko104 said:
If you think all people who oppose abortions are men and all people who support legalized abortion are women you are very mistaken.

It is the phrase "war on women" that annoys. I don't hear pro-life Republicans declaring Democrats have a "War against Children" or "War against Fathers" or other off-point sloganism of used the worked-to-death "War On ______________."
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Hmm - but Conservatives love the 'war on' phrase the most - they coin everything anyone does to be a 'war on ___' -- I hear it all the time when my husband watches his news (Fox)
 
joko104 said:
The strategy of declaring that the Republicans have a "War On Women" appears to be backfiring. Personally, I think overall what I see as the extreme and entrenced bigotries of old Democrats is backfiring as is the tactics of division overall, dividing people into opposing camps on:

Race
Religion
Economic class
Age
Gender
Geographic location

The "War of Women" claim by Democrats is grotesquely sexist.
1. The attitude is that women are only a collection of reproductive parts for which they need Democrats to protect them against unwanted pregnancies Republicans want to force on them - and that all the other issues - economy and foreign policy - are the men's issues.
2. That abortion and contraceptions are only "womens" issues and of no interest to men.
To try to make the election women versus men.

Nationally, Obama has gone from a 14% lead among women voters to a 0% lead. You'd think they'd have figured out by now that the strategy isn't working, rather than doubling down on it.
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I have kind of always just ignored the government's take on 'women's issues.' I could not see any future in any of it, be it left or right. The only future I saw for myself was that which I chose to create through education and moving up. And the only helping hand I saw was at the end of my wrist. I got no assistance for my education. I paid for it myself. But it was worth it. I do VERY well for a woman OR a man.
 
head of joaquin said:
Yep, that's how stupid and culturally illiterate teabaggers are:

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OK, tell us: How's the shrimp boating these days?
 
head of joaquin said:
Since Romney has nothing to offer on the economic front except more of Bush's failed policies, this hardly changes the fact that the GOP is attacking the reproductive rights of women.
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:sword::sword::sword::sword:

American women don't really need you on your toy horse and brandishing your toy sword to take care of us!
 
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head of joaquin said:
Since Romney has nothing to offer on the economic front except more of Bush's failed policies, this hardly changes the fact that the GOP is attacking the reproductive rights of women.

It's rather comical to see an OP deny it since the GOP admits it. They brag about it, while wallowing in rhetoric about legitimate rapes and God's will for raped women. Sick.
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Actually, I think it is certainly something to offer that he wasn't educated in a communist school, and understands wealth as it relates to the American dream. I definitely think that not being a terrorist sympathizer is something to offer. Those former state governors generally do have the executive experience to hold the office of president. A community organizer, not so much! And before you get off on your 'you're just a greedy Republican' horse, I'm a registered Democrat and swing voter!)
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Progressives are not the brightest of the bulbs in the box... First off - I love woman - but at the same time they don't have the right to murder innocent fetuses under the ruse that it's "my body" - what about their (the fetuses) body? At one point those feminine bodies were once a fetus... An individual isn't a body part and a fetus is an individual...

Of course, my position on that issue makes me hate woman because I oppose them killing babies...

Oh yeah I also oppose FREE contraceptives so that means I hate woman..

You know what? progressives are like little children who scream "mommy you hate me because you wont buy me ___________"
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Henrin said:
Exactly.

You oppose abortion?

Then you hate women.

You don't want to provide women with free contraceptives?

Then you hate women.

I wonder what happens if you oppose some of their other stances?

You don't want the government to provide people with food stamps?

Then you want people to starve to death.

You don't want to provide people with free healthcare?

Then you want people to die in the streets.

You are against Social Security?

Then you want old people to be thrown off a cliff.
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This was not an issue until men got involved in the birthing process. Women handled it.
 
joko104 said:
If you think all people who oppose abortions are men and all people who support legalized abortion are women you are very mistaken.

It is the phrase "war on women" that annoys. I don't hear pro-life Republicans declaring Democrats have a "War against Children" or "War against Fathers" or other off-point sloganism of used the worked-to-death "War On ______________."
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What is the definition of war then? To impose your beliefs on others by force is one definition. Isn't that what the pro-lifers are trying to do?
 
Maenad said:
I earn my own money thankyouverymuch!
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Then it should be clear who wants you to keep that money and who wants you to give it to their downtrodden base. :)
 
Fisher said:
Then it should be clear who wants you to keep that money and who wants you to give it to their downtrodden base. :)
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Yes, it is clear. My issue was with your characterization of 'women.' Not 'some women.' I LOVE money. That's why I have gone to school so I could make alot of it! My vote never brought one thin dime into my household! My schooling and my work did that!
 
Maenad said:
Yes, it is clear. My issue was with your characterization of 'women.' Not 'some women.' I LOVE money. That's why I have gone to school so I could make alot of it! My vote never brought one thin dime into my household! My schooling and my work did that!
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I apologize for the confusion. Who is going to give it to them in my mind implied those who are going to let them earn it on their own as much as who might be handing them a check. Women are going to be economic voters this time which was my larger implied point.
 
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