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A Romney/Biden Presidency?

MaggieD said:
Boy, that sounds wrong. The presidential candidates pick their running mates. We vote for the pair. If it's a tie, why wouldn't the US House of Representatives pick the president and, automatically, his vice-presidential pick become the Vice President? Sounds wrong. But, it won't happen anyway.

The Electoral College is not mandated to cast their votes the way their state votes anyway, so I'd say some state would break ranks and avoid that possibility.
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I wasn't always this way.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
I'd be ok with that. You'd get two political veterans in office with fairly sensible opinions from both parties - what's not to like?
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Well, Joe Biden has spent an awful lot of months now trashing Mitt Romney along with his ideas, concepts, and proposed plans and policy. There are no doubt hundreds of You Tube clips out there with Biden expressing his contempt for everything Romney has ever done or ever suggested. How could a President Romney send him out to represent or speak for the President? How much could Biden be trusted to accurately and honestly represent the President's agenda? And if he did a 180 and became a dedicated team player, how much would he be held in contempt for doing that?

All interesting things to think about.
 
I don't think it would work that way, anyone know for sure?
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well, Joe Biden has spent an awful lot of months now trashing Mitt Romney along with his ideas, concepts, and proposed plans and policy. There are no doubt hundreds of You Tube clips out there with Biden expressing his contempt for everything Romney has ever done or ever suggested. How could a President Romney send him out to represent or speak for the President? How much could Biden be trusted to accurately and honestly represent the President's agenda? And if he did a 180 and became a dedicated team player, how much would he be held in contempt for doing that?

All interesting things to think about.
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It's politics - you are supposed to trash your opponent. Ever heard the quote "nice guys finish last?"
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
It's politics - you are supposed to trash your opponent. Ever heard the quote "nice guys finish last?"
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Yes, but generally the President has a vice president who philosophically and literally supports the President's policies in all the important stuff and who can competently stand in and represent the President's policies effectively and convincingly.

Do you really think Biden could or would do that for Romney?

And if he did, how would Obama supporters react to that? For that matter, how would the right wingnuts who have been trashing Biden for four years react to that?
 
AlbqOwl said:
Yes, but generally the President has a vice president who philosophically and literally supports the President's policies in all the important stuff and who can competently stand in and represent the President's policies effectively and convincingly.

Do you really think Biden could or would do that for Romney?

And if he did, how would Obama supporters react to that? For that matter, how would the right wingnuts who have been trashing Biden for four years react to that?
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First, this isn't a "generally" type scenario. Secondly, they'd have to react. Those RWnuts aren't gonna be happy if Romney is in office, either.
 
American said:
No, the new Congress doesn't take office till the following year.
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Yes, and? The next term begins the following year too--a couple weeks after the new Congress.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
First, this isn't a "generally" type scenario. Secondly, they'd have to react. Those RWnuts aren't gonna be happy if Romney is in office, either.
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I would agree that those who don't have a clue what the Founders intended this country to be and who expect the President to be some kind of superman who immediately solves all the problems aren't going to be happy. There is a segment of our society who doesn't seem to be happy under any circumstances, and would be miserable if they actually got what they say they want. (So would everybody else.)

So I am hoping for a President who knows what makes a strong economy that is based on freedom and private initiative and I believe Romney does understand that. And if he is able to get some policies through to facilitiate that--that means that private enterprise will be assured they won't get blindsided by onerous taxes and regulation--then we will see the economy take off and we will begin to repair ourselves.

I have high hopes that Romney has the temperament, skills, and understanding to help make that happen. That's all I am expecting of him, and if he accomplishes it, that will be sufficient to make me a happy camper.

I have no assurance that a Joe Biden does, and an obstructive vice president would make the job a lot more difficult. So I am really REALLY hoping the electoral college does not end in a tie.
 
American said:
No, the new Congress doesn't take office till the following year.
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If there was a tie, it would be the newly elected Congress that would choose the President.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Assuming that the solidly red states will stay red and the solidly blue states will stay blue, and focusing on the toss up battleground states:

It is conceivable that if the vote goes a certain way,Romney and Obama could tie with 269 electoral college votes each.

If that should happen, the House will choose the President. The Senate will choose the Vice President.

We could see a Romney/Biden Presidency.

What do you think? Good thing? Bad thing? An end to partisan bickering? Disaster?

What If the Presidential Election is a Tie? - YouTube
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That isn't going to happen - that is almost impossible.

I have Obama potentially losing Illinois or California while Romney wins several swing states... Romney has 50% of the popular vote so if these allegedly "liberal" states are "overwhelmingly liberal" then that must mean Romney takes the swing states - that or Romney takes "liberal locks." One cant have it both ways...
 
IndepCentristMA said:
I think it sounds like a bunch of stuff...

I thought this possibility was more likely early on in the election...

Right now there are 206 electoral votes leaning Romney, and it looks like he will win FL, NC, and VA... which he is close in OH, CO, IA, and NH... all states that are close to tied and have trending Romney...

Also, these polls count likely voters... The late breaking undecided voters havent been counted, and they traditionally have gone 80% to 20% in favor of the challenger in every election... If that's the case.. it would create a landslide in Romney's favor... much like Reagan Carter...
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Also like FDR-Hoover. Both Obama and Hoover messed up depressions they inherited. Romney's whole image is as someone who has the strength and fatherly wisdom to get us out of this mess.
 
This shows how diabolical our deified Constitution really is. Shred it into chads.
 
Would probably lead to outrage and the rise of a third party, finally.
 
The Democrats have shown us a downgraded national credit rating, crushing debt, a stagnant economy, high unemployment, inadequate positive results, and no plan but more of the same.

The Republicans also disappointed us when they had all the power from 2001 through 2006 which is why they lost that power at that time.

We know the Democrats have not learned their lesson because most continue to support Obama. If we put the Republicans back in charge, we have to understand they can't fix everything all at once, but if we do not see steady progress and positive results. . . .

THEN I am pretty darn sure that the Tea Partiers, 9/12ers, tax reformers, and similar groups will see to it that we have a viable third party.
 
The Man said:
Yeah, because the OP scenario happens all the time.
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It tells me, "We gave the little nobodies their chance to decide which of our candidates to elect and they were too dumb to make up their minds. So now we get to put the election back in the hands of the political elite where it belonged in the first place." That's what does happen all the time throughout this anti-democratic document.
 
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